Political Discussion Thread II

General Discussion Off-Topic
#2012

It isn’t really historically speaking, until recently college graduates actually trended slightly Republican, but it mostly just wasn’t a demographic you needed to weight for. For that matter, even the rural/urban divide just isn’t that old in polling terms. Don’t get me wrong, the pollsters who weren’t doing it should’ve seen it coming, since it turned out to be significant well before election day, but it wasn’t exactly something that had been there a long time.

Apart from that, I should also note that some of this perception came from two other issues. One, that a huge portion of the 2016 electorate was undecided, and broke for Trump at high rates. And two, that the third party vote was rather high (not Ross Perot levels or anything, but significantly higher than typical).

As for on the current topic of guns, all I’ll note is that assault weapon is a very, very stupid term (not directed at any of you, but frustrates me due to the bad attempt at PR, with no clarity, that confuses discussions on the topic).

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#2013

A fear tactic. Plain and simple.

You guys already know my POV. :zipper_mouth_face:

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#2014

I like to call a cat a cat.
Others prefer the p word.

Might not be a tiger or a lion but still a cat.

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#2015

Another interesting read of the past.

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#2016

Forget masks!

WTF?!

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#2017

This actually goes back to June. It was pure Flaming Lips at the time. I guess doing it got Coyne to thinking it was a viable thing.

It’s the Flaming Lips. They’re different. They’re also awesome.

Side note : it looks like we’re not immune from ignorant ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■ on the island.

Nor in Vancouver to where they were going to attend an anti-mask rally with other ignorant ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■.

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#2018

HEY! If I can’t smoke on the ferry between Québec cty and Lévis. They better wear a mask!

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#2019

Remember the seat belt and helmet protests?

Does anyone still believe that wearing their seatbelt impinges on their Freedom? If so, they’re a ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■ just like the above.

Hey man. Freedom isn’t free. It costs a buck-o-five.

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#2020

Because if you don’t wear a seatbelt…

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#2021

I don’t know the exact location for neither of them but…
In the Canadian rockys. You have free access to “national parks” trails but wearing appropriate gear is mandatory. If you get in trouble we get you out for free.
On the opposite. It the Live free or die state of New Hampshire. You can access Appalachian trails in flip-flop but have to prove you have insurance and provide a hefty deposit for the (quite in some case) possible S&R.

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#2022

North Shore (North and West Vancouver) SAR is one of the biggest and busiest in North America. They are of the position that charging for rescues is unacceptable since it may cause people to not call, or delay calling, for help.

This despite the fact that they consistently get the most ludicrous of rescue calls (I hiked up Grouse Grind and had no idea it was that tough despite its legendary status of being A Grind and now I’m too tired to hike down. Please come get me with your $10,000 per hour helicopter). Of course these are tourists or recent arrivals and the locals would just as soon see them coyote fodder. (Crap, what am I talking about. No one in North Van was actually born there anymore. They’re all nouveau riche douche bags. ■■■■ the lot of them)

No BC SAR group charges, to my knowledge.

And for fear of being tiresome

Jim’s always good for a jab at Freedom.

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#2023

… Or the third night he’s fishing on a now drifting sheet of ice on lake Ontario. Ran out of gas on an island.
Sometime you find the missing person at the marina’s bar! :partying_face:
I have trustworthy connections. :wink: Some juicy ones and wouldn’t share in pubic too. :open_mouth:

Usually the threat of being charged for the operation take care of recidivist.

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#2024

More people need to wake to the reality of that last sentence.

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#2025

Throw out all those other polls!
Here is the poll of all polls.

:cookie:=Trump wins!

Sorry, that’s the way the cookie crumbles.

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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#2026

Gee VH, that also sounds like our justice and political systems! What a coincidence.

Yeah though, the American worker has been so screwed over in the last four decades, that there were only two times when they got even a technical wage increase. Neither were particularly large. The economic story post 70s in America has largely been defined by a massive movement of wealth towards the rich and a stratification of the economy.

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#2027

Since the 9th century at least really, at least in the Old World. Further back if you want to look at Egypt. But then, it wasn’t slaves or serfs that built the pyramids - rather aliens…of course.

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#2028

I mean, accurate, but not really quite the same topic? Worker wages in America actually went up post New Deal peaking in the early/mid 70s ish. The current trends are not new in any sense, but there was at least a brief period where upward mobility in America really was a thing.

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#2029

Apparently, it was actually the Egyptians themselves who built the pyramids as part of their religious worship. The slaves were too busy getting food and shelter for all the workers.

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#2030

What I was implying was that our 50’s middle class ideal could be an anomalous blip. It proved that it was entirely sustainable, but unfortunately…humans.

Yes, alien Egyptians.

image

See? I got the totally real photo to prove it!

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#2031

One thing for sure is these alien Egyptian architects were quite primitive if the best they could come up with was a square base pyramids.

Ever notice there’s a “y” in both Egypt and pyramid?
Coincidence? I don’t think so…

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