Somebody ring Hattie and tell her, her account has been hacked. I will keep the imposter distracted.
Welcome back Hattie? Where you been?
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And of course the incumbent does not accept the election outcome…
Thing is, it doesn’t get votes thrown out. Recounting the ones that are in under closer scrutiny won’t change the numbers.
That would take an unholy amount of legal trickery or a mass of evidence that, as of now, isn’t there.
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I just came back to voice my joy because America has, finally, covered itself in superglue and stood in a shower of confetti to make the world happy.
In my absence I have won the lottery (then spent it all), written a three volume series of erotic novels, gained five PhDs (in astrophysics, mostly), and, most importantly, got a new graphics card which lets me play Borderlands 3 on medium settings.
Love to y’all, well done yanks.
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Appreciate it, honestly I could use the perspective - must admit rather disconcerted by how close this election wound up, because I viewed it as a referral on not just Trump, but Trumpism. And while the former may have lost, we did nowhere near well enough to get rid of the latter.
Regardless, good to hear from you Hattie.
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Hmmmm. This could be worse than I thought. That was an awfully good Hattie impression for a Hacker. I fear were dealing with a body snatch situation here. We may need to call an emergency meeting in the shed. In the meantime I will continue with my subtle distraction and try to get them to slip up by saying something unHattie like.
Great to see you again Hattie. Do you still hate Zane and totally not want to marry him? That Jerk.
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Ok, in honor of @Hattie making a comeback and not being the party pooper at this bash…
There, are you happy you filthy animals?
Also, oh my god…
Has there ever been a better “Trump” moment?
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Welcome to the parallel reality:
“The American people are entitled to an honest election,” Trump said. “That means counting all legal ballots, and not counting any illegal ballots. This is the only way to ensure the public has full confidence in our election."
The first sentence of the quote is something I can support.
I read an interview with an American professor of constitutional law today who suspected that Trump literally has no understanding how elections work, let alone any knowledge about the constitution. Honestly, him being unable to understand that votes in PA can be counted if they’re postmarked on time or that even SCotUS can’t simply overturn a count or devalue any non-GOP votes sure makes it look that way. 
Meanwhile, even the loyalist station has new views:
“If and when it’s time to accept an unfavorable outcome in this election, and we hope it never comes, President Trump needs to do it with the same grace and composure that he demonstrated at that town hall with Savannah Guthrie,” Ingraham said
That’s not their usual tone. More Ingraham:
“Why aren’t the best lawyers in America on television night after night explaining the president’s legal claims?”
Instead of a lawyer who is at least sound of mind and body, Trump sent Giuliani. That may not be a winning strategy…
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Guys, again, I’m trying to remain tempered here.
But trump just announced a big press conference…
at a landscaping company…
between a dildo shop and a crematorium.
There’s so much wonder in the world.
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So the backdrop for the press conference would be sculpted bushes surrounded by stiffs and dongs?
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Well, this is… not at all what I expect from 538. It’s more of the stream of conscious stuff, and not from Silver this time. I will say, I think it struck a rather profound note, but eh read it if you want.
Edit: I was also rather struck by the final line of another stream of conscious from a different writer on there, “The most important story may be not what changed electorally in 2020, but how and why so much did not change.” (It’s from Perry Bacon Jr.)
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Theoretical degrees in astrophysics, perchance? (Rather than degrees in theoretical astrophysics). Don’t be a stranger now!
I had a question for @TemetNosce and the other US folks. Given the way the electoral system works, is there anyone who does officially declare the result? Like the Grand Poobah of the Electoral Colleges of America or something? Or is it more that each electoral college announces it’s allocation and everyone interested just adds up the numbers for themselves?
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Aside:
But the greatest problem posed by the polling crisis is not in the presidential election, where the snapshots provided by polling are ultimately measured against an actual tally of votes: As the political cliché goes, the only poll that matters is on Election Day. The real catastrophe is that the failure of the polls leaves Americans with no reliable way to understand what we as a people think outside of elections—which in turn threatens our ability to make choices, or to cohere as a nation.
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Yeah, that’s the reason that there’s actually a time limit on deciding an election VH. On… one moment - December 14 the electors (the people who actually vote for president - I can cover this in more detail if you want, but some of the details vary by state) meet in their states, and officially certify their votes, which are then sealed and sent off to Congress, where they’ll later be officially counted.
To note though, even the official tallies of votes won’t be certified in each state for quite some time. It’s after that that the slate of electors do the actual voting.
Edit: Forgot to respond to Cur, will do so more after I read article probably, but I’m not convinced polling is in any more crisis than before the election? Though I may like this article better if it at least properly cites downballot issues or outreach to cuban Americans rather than claiming this is a particularly unusual polling miss in the presidential.
Both before and after the election I do think there’s a problem with declining response rates though.
Edit, edit: The article’s basic premise just flatly misunderstands both how polls are designed and the present results. The basic results they’re discussing fell easily within the expected range.
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OK, so when Guiliani was being all histrionic about ‘all the media have called it’ he was being technically correct, even if he was over-doing the whole ‘appealing to heaven’ schtick.
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The media always call races (or more specifically, the decision desks do), albeit often the losing candidate concedes first. Trump’s behavior is anomalous admittedly, but, well, what else is new?
Edit: Also, those typos really, really bother me now that I see them quoted.
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I’m working again today so little or no time to read but one thing I’ve noticed is how quiet things are from the R side. I quickly watched a CBC vid of Atlanta where pro-Trumpists are protesting (quietly) on one side of the street and anti-Ts are one the other demonstrating (quietly).
Typical CBC.
I think in Philly a couple dudes with automatics got nabbed en route to “sorting out the ballots” or some such.
Not much else I’ve seen. So that’s nice.
Edit : forgot about this gem :
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-6bc5-d2df-adff-6fdfff5c0000
Don’t you know the CV pandemic is over? There’s an official document declaring it so it must be true.
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Personally, I’m hoping it doesn’t get more destructive than this:
Which just kinda sounds like fun to me. I still think it will, but it would be nice if that’s the worst they can report on.
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Wait, New Zealand gets a vote? Since when?
Eyes widen.
FRAUD! FRAUD! REAL HONEST TO GOODNESS FRAUD AND FOREIGN ELECTION INTERFERENCE! QUICKLY! ATTACK THE WETA WORKSHOP! FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF THINGS THAT’S THEIR ARMORY!
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Yeah, only thing I recall apart from the pair of idiots trying to attack in Philly was a bomb threat (also in the same place), so far relatively peaceful. Which is a sad way to describe such things, but there you go.
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