Political Discussion Thread II

With a name like Pompeo, he can hardly claim that to be true. Unless whatever the opposite of multiculturalism is means… No, not going there.

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Yep.

Another funny point would be that Trump’s grandfather Frederick Trump was a German immigrant (painful to write that :confused:) and his mother was born in Scotland…

So much for the connection to the founders and the US not being multicultural :man_shrugging:

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Ah, but those are all white Western European cultures…

Wait, did I just type that out loud?

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Okay, we got a problem. MAGA has now transformed from acronym to adjective and noun : Maga.

I’m kind of hearing Scooter saying “that’s a word now”.

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Kind of makes me think the man in charge of snappy hat slogans for Biden and co missed a marketing trick. With its rival brand MASA Make America Sane Again we could have witnessed the greatest fashion brand rivalries since Nike and Adidas.

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All Day I Dream About Sanity


So Canada’s Governor General, Julie Payette, is getting the boot for being - and I’m paraphrasing here - a horrible bitch. Oh sorry, she’s resigning for being a horrible bitch. Minor detail.

Once again, Canadians are asking the tough questions :

  • uh, who?
  • Wut’s a Governor General?
  • Why is a Governor General?

So Canadians, here are your answers :

  • no one of consequence
  • nothing of consequence
  • to siphon millions of dollars annually out of national coffers in order to perform “constitutional duties,” “represent Canada” and “encourage excellence” and other inconsequential activities.

I stumbled on this from September 2018.

The single most critical constitutional function a governor general can perform — appointing a prime minister at a time of parliamentary uncertainty — is a job so constrained by precedent and convention it could easily be replaced with a law filling half a sheet of paper.

This is where my conservative side shows. “Only liberals could possibly think keeping the role intact is a good use of taxpayer’s money.”
Although I can’t imagine anyone does, however liberal.

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Naga problem?

Oh, sorry. Read that wrong…

“A solid Maga base” sounds a little like the bigly behind of a Trump supporter.

On a more serious note:

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While American corporations continue to play Monopoly, It seems the UK government is intent on playing another classic board game. Go For Broke, where the aim of the game is to be the first player to go bankrupt this year by spending money in the stupidest ways possible, while crippling your economy to make sure you don’t earn anything. Pretty sure the UK got this one in the bag. Yay were champions :frowning:

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I’m just waiting for Boris the Bodger to wave his US passport in the air as he flees Downing Street in a rash of excuses, rationalizations, and denials.

@Jefe: I agree that the GG role is pretty redundant, especially since the one or two times I think the GG should have exercised a bit of backbone and stepped up for Canadians, they didn’t because lawyers were split on whether the letter of the law actually meant what it appeared to say. My big question is, what would we replace it with? I was watching some coverage from CityTV the other night, and there is a group wanting to turn Canada in to a Republic. I’m not sure we would want both a PM (House/Senate leader) and a President though, and I certainly don’t want to see US-style presidential elections. If the role would still be largely ceremonial, then maybe we don’t need one at all?

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Going to make this a separate post:

It doesn’t get much more ridiculous than this. Hopefully, the Judge hearing this claim will be sufficiently clued in to tell the plaintiff, ‘You owe him your allegiance’.

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Since Trump is as sane as Denethor, making him steward may seem appropriate.

Though honestly, NO, just no.

Such a waste of court time should be regarded as contempt of the court and fined accordingly.

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From a legal standpoint I haven’t come across anything to indicate that the role is necessary. So I assume that if we did away with it, nothing would actually happen that couldn’t be resolved with a minor bit of lawmaking. If not…

Since the position is to act act representative of the Crown in Canada, and since the need for active representation is minuscule at best, the Queen herself can shoulder the burden.

And remember how his tenure ended…

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:fire:


Meanwhile in Russia:

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Sshhhhhhhh. I’m not really here. :shushing_face:

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I don’t know about that. I think she’s the kind that when she tell you to do something. She expect it to be done pronto. Doesn’t care about your feeling about it. Work nice in a "para-military* environment such as NASA. Not so much in public office.
In my opinion she should never had taken the job. Another one who took the “Queen representative” a bit too seriously. :flushed:

We don’t.

Nope.
Not that anyone care if Québec ratify the constitution or not but… :wink: That would never pass here. Even the Liberal party wouldn’t dare accept this.

We can simply write off the monarchy from constitutional monarchy.
For a long time I really liked the presidential concept. The Harper’s years showed how a P.M. can reign as a king in our current system. The past 12 … or 30 years in the U.S. also showed it was not protected from partisanship. Personally I would rather work on adding the word representative.

… And just so we are clear. :wink:
Your Queen does not and will not appoint my Prime Minister.

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This is exactly what I needed to read about today. I am deceased :joy:

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The Brexit deal fallout continues to intensify:

It’s telling that staff within the various UK government departments have a much better grasp of reality than the ministers and senior (political) officials. I don’t see any way that this can be made better, let alone in a timely manner.

So it’s also no surprise that the SNP is banging the separation war drum again:

The long-term consequences of political incompetence in the UK could very well turn out to be more severe than those in the US at this rate.

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Dude… lemme just say: ■■■■ these people. The gubmint wants more tools to go after domestic religious extremists, insurrectionists and… libertarians?! ■■■■. These. People. In the butt.

MOAR tools?! The FBI, ATF, and local and state police aren’t enough? Really? Like, do they WANT an actual civil war? Cause this is how you get one.

■■■■ like this is going to provoke the fringe elements of society, and make those not on the fringe wonder wtf it is that they think they’re doing.

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Interesting the spin the bill is getting. “Targeting MAGA (or is it Maga? :thinking:) rallies” for example.

The text of the bill can be found hereand does not mention MAGA rallies. It states: “White supremacists and other far-right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States.”

Gabbard’s assertion is remarkably overstated. Obviously one should be cautiously concerned. Patriot Act and all that, but there are no indicators that the bill will result in a police state where the first act will be to arrest every white male gun owner.

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It seems to be a rehash of the attempt to pass this bill yet again. As such bills go, I don’t really particularly hate this one - that’s more a comment on what I was worried about rather than it being a good bill though. In pointed fact, it doesn’t really seem to do much other than produce a report, and implement yet more training with an attitude I’m not sure I encourage in law enforcement.

That said, frankly it’s possible even this could be turned against the public, given it does implement further cooperation and specific groups for domestic terrorism. And I’ll tell you right now, it’s not the domestic terrorists this would mainly be turned against (see how other police powers are used, and who gets targeted).

More directly, what’s needed now is reform in law enforcement. They already have a plethora of ways to go after domestic terrorism, but that’s almost never what those are used for.

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