Political Discussion Thread

Meanwhile, in Europe, effective cooperation between the UK and Netherlands despite the continuing Brexit saga:

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Once again, you had me at handjobs.

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That was an odd vote. Murkowski voted no on a procedural, which means she’s almost a guaranteed no on the actual vote. Collins says she’s announcing her vote later today, despite voting yes on the procedural. Manchin voted yes on the procedural, but is likely not willing to be the deciding vote in favor. And Daines is now leaving Washington to attend a wedding, so this vote might occur one down.

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Interesting read here which, although financial in nature, is very much political in terms of what’s going on. And, although it’s UK-focussed, the same comments would apply to Canada and the US for sure:

Interested to know what people think. Warning: it is a bit of a long read, but it’s obviously a lot shorter than the book it’s taken from.

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Figured what it might be about, though it took a while to get to the explanation of the misallocation that Wall Street et al cause. Yeah though, he’s got a point. Main Street is being starved, you can see it in relative production generated by a dollar in different conditions. I do think the author is optimistic to the point of foolishness on his proposed solution though.

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A growing body of economic research confirms that once a financial sector grows above an optimal size and beyond its useful roles, it begins to harm the country that hosts it.

That sounds rather dramatically like they consider London to be a tumor. Good image.

I haven’t had a chance to finish the article, but it’s a convincing premise.

Even if I look at a smaller, closer example - Whistler - I can see this in action. In the 70’s it was a collection of stoners living in self-built shacks on land they bought for $10K. Now land is $10K per square inch and normal people have to work 5 jobs and live with 6 other people. Meanwhile nearby towns that were sustained by conventional means have become unliveable to the next generation because of the spillover effect. All this to serve a skiing industry.

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Why do I keep forgetting nothing matters

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You haven’t fully accepted heat desth yet.

I have to admit, I did not expect Trump/Republicans to get a bump this big from Kavanaugh. It also seems to have entirely drowned out the tax story, which never really caught on. I do somewhat wonder how it’ll play out over the midterms themselves though. My default assumption is that by the time election day rolls around it’ll play to Democratic benefit, but it’s close enough that sufficiently effective use of the media may keep the Republican base motivated.

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See Hattie’s post above.

But yes, I dunno. I still anticipate a drubbing if only because that’s what history tells us is likely to happen. Although, that being said, I believe history also told me that we’d never have a presidential campaign won by a reality TV star… Clearly, that was a filthy lie.

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Yeah, don’t get me wrong the evidence says Democrats will gain House seats, and I don’t think that’s in reasonable doubt. Or even that they’ll gain a lot. However, the range of seats that are reasonably probable goes from not quite enough to give them the House, to a good twenty over that. Further, the Senate is just in a weird position, it’s a war between the map and the wave basically. The map is for the Democrats arguably histories worst, but they have such an advantage in terms of environment that the most probable result is a wash or close to it.

Can’t deny the probable results aren’t the only possible ones though. Maybe Republicans take almost no losses in the House, maybe Democrats get 50 seats, maybe one side or the other sweeps the competitive Senate races. Those possibilities aren’t very likely though.

One odd point is there’s a decent probability of the House and Senate results diverging, which would make this the fourth time that’s happened from recollection. Regardless, we’ll see.

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Thos is what’s giving me the most pause right now. And it sucks.

Just stumbled onto this…:

Asked if he’s ever blacked out, he says ā€œI don’t knowā€ā€¦

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Speaking as a fairly accomplished drunk, if that’s your answer, you need to quit.

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A simple yes or no question. I wonder if he ever tolerated a witness evading questions by asking questions in HIS court? Lied so many times under oath or evaded questions.
Only the truth AND ALL the truth. Quite simple no? How does he expect any credibility as a SCOTUS if he can’t get that simple thing?

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Exactly. And regarding a drinking problem, most folks would be ā€œBeer? :no_entry_sign: Had enough.ā€

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I’m just saying, it’s one thing to blackout - I’ve done it, all my friends have done it, ā– ā– ā– ā–  most people I know have done it. You don’t know what you do when you have a blackout, but you sure as ā– ā– ā– ā–  know it happened.

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Stumbled onto this old bit…:


Dude, you don’t joke about ā– ā– ā– ā–  like this.

Also, am I reading her laugh wrong?:


ā€œ(P )Resident Evilā€?:

Also, without the space, ā€œ( P )ā€ interestingly becomes §, which I have no idea what it is.

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I think ā€œI don’t knowā€¦ā€ has been taken out of context.

Answered question:

00:16 - ā€œnoā€

Out of frustration, answered:

ā€œI don’t know, have you?ā€ = interpreted as:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/i-don-t-know
(hence, the reason he apologizes to Ms. Klobuchar at end of vid)

Answered again:

00:43 - ā€œIs that your answer?ā€ He answers, ā€œyeahā€

Now if it was wine…

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