Political Discussion Thread

Oh, I know he’s just a power hungry tumor with ties to the people I like.

I won’t even say he’s not good at what he does. Because that would be stupid.

But even short of anything “major”, if he gets eviscerated I’ll at least call half a point in humanity’s favor.

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Yeah… The man is clever, he’s just so obsessed with his own cleverness that it tends to bite him in the ass. That and he may very well be somewhat sociopathic. He seems to have trouble grasping consequences, something that’s followed him his entire career.

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Is “may” really in question at this point?

I mean, for realsies.

He had a whole netflix special about how demonic he was. And he was rock hard through all of it.

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Don’t knock Roger, he gave us the world’s only Richard Nixon head tattoo

That’s not a tramp stamp, it’s a spine shrine

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Apparently, his start in political activism was JFK. Stone was 8 at the time…

BTW that linked article has a 1985 Getty images photo of Stone, Manafort, and Lee Atwater in it. That is an interesting combination of names!

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That’s a new one to me I think, the one I see cited the most is his activity as a teenager, when he faked one of Nixon’s competitors donating to a group called the Young Socialist Alliance.

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“Trump is a broken man,” tweeted commentator Mike Cernovich

Conservative provocateur Ann Coulter wrote on Twitter: “Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States.”

Wow. Poor George Bush :smile:

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drew immediate scorn from some of the prominent conservative figures whose support may be crucial to his 2020 re-election bid.

Does this mean the far right will want someone even more extreme running in 2020?
Oh that Trump, what softy. We need someone who eats babies for breakfast. He’ll get stuff done!

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@TemetNosce: Remember me asking about the choking off of emigration as a result of this shutdown? Well, this might not be exactly it, but…:



Go, Canada!
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A government shutdown is a foreign concept for the Canadian me but I can use my imagination. Not paying your air traffic controllers is beyond my imagination thou. It should be among essential services.
There’s probably some other services like that I’m not aware of.

Not bragging or judging… The “new” (It’s not really new at this point.) pay service for Federal employee in Canada (Phoenix). Is/was such a mess that it can somewhat compare to it.

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The air traffic controller story is interesting because the shutdown of La Guardia may be what rushed them to make that announcement ending the shutdown. I think to a degree the public doesn’t grasp how close we got to a major problem there, our air traffic is very closely interrelated.

On a tangentially related topic, I’m somewhat curious how much damage this does to GDP growth apart from the literal cost of the shutdown. Hassett put it at .13% a week, which surprised me given his job, but seems worryingly even higher than expected.

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Question, is a king without a people to preside over a king at all?

Also, I have a theory…

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J. Trudeau “resigned” Canada’s ambassador in China.
First reaction was that’s why you want ambassadors with diplomatic experience and at least basic knowledge of the country.
But there’s a lot of talk about why he said what he said. Did he had “pressure” or threats from the Chinese government?

-edit-

Elsewhere in the world…

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The language he used was remarkably fishy. He sounded like a defense lawyer dropping hints as to how to skirt extradition and/or US prosecution.

But, yes : why? This is not information that needed to be publicly stated. Was he threatened or bribed to try to convince the Canadian public that it was a fool’s errand to pursue this? Or perhaps it was Chinese media’s way to convince the Chinese public that they have Canadian support? Or was it a more calculated move to further destabilize the Canadian position by creating more infighting? Certainly seems like that patented brand of preposterous Chinese propaganda (alliteration!).

Obviously that clown had to go.

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He didn’t leave any other options on the table…

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‘Resign’ is the guy choosing to give up his position; firing is you making him give it up.

Yup.
Firing is when he get fired…
In this case, something I don’t think we see much outside of politics. Maybe with head coach in pro sports? He was “asked” to resign…
What make it wholly stupid is that’s what the PM publicly said…

I’m basically asking if the guy meant one thing but said the other…or are the two interchangeable? If the definitions are as I laid out, but someone says he resigned someone while effectively firing them…that makes everything down the road questionable, does it not? Especially if the guy is in any sort of leadership position like ahem…

This is the political jargon that is used : “I accepted his resignation” definitely means “I fired him under no uncertain terms”.

It’s just niced up for the media.

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I totally agree. Almost went there this morning when I posted it. Or ask my friends on fb…
No one seem to bother thou and wasn’t in the mood for that kind of discussion.
Even the media doesn’t seem to be bothered by it.
I guess it goes with the character. Justin Trudeau can never do mean things like firing an ambassador. But he sure will get you out of his way if you’re a nuisance. Don’t be fooled.