Political Discussion Thread


This is disgusting.
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Ha, aren’t they talking about putting illegal immigrants into some of the ā€˜sanctuary’ cities? Should be interesting to watch either way.

Um Mike, maybe read the linked article? (Is this one of those weird what-you-see-on-desktop-is-not-what-you-see-on-mobile things?)

Very possibly. I’m on a desktop and the article is discussing Trump’s apparent evil plan of shipping people detained for crossing the border illegally into sanctuary cities in Cali. I believe, and correct me if I’m wrong, but Trump tweeted something about covefe, and then quickly followed up with some sort of scheme to move these people from detainee camps at the border to Nancy Pelosi’s district in San Fran.

In other news:

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Yeah, saw that while hunting political news. Had a livestream up. Surprised by how sad it made me.

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Extraordinary pictures… A real tragedy, it’s one of my favourite Gothic churches.

I guess it was maintenance related, almost all fires in historic buildings are a blowtorch or similar left unattended.

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By all acounts yeah. Supposedly one in progress.

Roughly 180 years building time fall victim to maintenance works. That is sad indeed…

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Ruin is the end of all buildings, one way or the other… I don’t mean that to sound glib, it’s genuinely awful. Wish I could have seen it in person, although of course that would have meant going to Paris…

In political news (though according to the thesis I’m supposed to be editing ruin is totes political, but nevertheless):

Anyone got any plans for this dropping? Gonna look at the real thing, or get a digest? I’m not usually a fan of summaries by others but it may be lengthy…

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Both. I tend to think there’s something to be derived from both forms, since honestly I don’t really think I’m good enough at reading such documents to necessarily notice everything.

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I’ll be reading it through. I’ll start my comments on Monday if a small pause to study the material is acceptable.

Nobody ever notices everything, it’s part of why the discussions here are interesting at times!

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Another interesting election :

Headline : centre left party wins…but :

Finland’s parliamentary election results show the Social Democratic Party (SDP) winning with 17.7% of the votes. The tight race saw the anti-immigration right-wing Finns Party come in second place with 17.5%, while their coalition partners the National Coalition Party, and the Center Party scored 17% and 13.8% respectively.

So naturally :

coalition talks are likely to be protracted.

Ya think? :smile:

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Oh my god oh my god oh my god

He got me. I hate the part of me that loves this man

(A big problem in building conservation is the need to be extremely cautious about dousing old stonework in water during a fire because it will crack… Nevertheless, I desperately want Trump to start writing his own contingency plans).

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^^^ wow. Wow.

Anyhoo, this is horrible. That building was here long before any of us - you think WE live in crazy political (see, lookit me - always bringing it back to politics) times, just think of what that building has witnessed! Well, yes I understand that it’s a BUILDING so it can’t witness, but… YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

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So generally when I have to read long documents (often wishing I had someone with a higher authority to carry out redactions and lessen the agony) I generally think I should at least try and focus, but the Mueller thing should be a bit more fun. To ensure it, can anyone suggest phrases for a drinking game?

Some initial ideas:

  • Don Jr reprimanded - 1 drink
  • Ambiguous hedge about obstruction - 1
  • ā€˜Kompromat’ - 2
  • More lurid reference to what that is - 3 (I ought to find some sort of appropriately yellow-coloured mixer for these two)
  • Phrases I could cut and paste for my Michael Cohen fan fiction - 1
  • Stormy Daniels - 1 shot of Jack Daniels
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  • Meetings with Russians
  • Shared information
  • Implications/outright statements that it’s Congress’ responsibility
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I’d love to contribute to this, but alas the NHL playoffs have made me a nervous wreck, so… I am already drinking heavily every other night. :man_shrugging:

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More random country politics. Why not?

Looks like Egypt is one step forward and 38 years worth of steps back.

They get rid of one dictator - Mubarak, who was in from 1981-2011 - and elected themselves another. I honestly can’t say I’m remotely surprised - I figured Mubarakā€˜s ousting would create a power vacuum and it has.

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ā€˜Elected’ you mean. Personally I find elections where protesters are murdered in the street, and most other parties refuse to even name a candidate less than compelling statements about what the public thinks. To be fair, he just flat out refused most other candidates ballot access at all in 2018, and canceled all public debates… At least I don’t recall hearing he murdered hundreds of people in broad daylight this time.

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