#45

Don’t try Denial in lvl9 Mutator difficulty then.

#46

What is this of which you speak? You mean there is more beyond UVHM? I’m relatively a n00b

#47

There is a “glitch” that you can transfer lvl9 difficulty of Mutator Arena into Denial boss fight. In other word, it’s way harder than regular UVHM fight.

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#48

Over TB? Which works on everything past just pistols?

#49

I used to read your Wilhelm guide when I played TPS a lot…too bad LG wasn’t higher on the list…was godlike in coop

I guess he’s just too…balanced to be OP

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#50

Yes Maelstrom Athena is one of the first things that came to mind in this thread. I still have my Maelstrom Athena you helped me get gear for.

999 stacks and screen full of rockets equals lolol

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#51

Prize Fighter

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#52

Since moneyshot has been discussed, may I point out that Zer0’s B0re in itself isn’t really all too OP - those super OP kills we all know come from its interaction with overlapping hitboxes and I’m pretty sure that isn’t its intended use. Anyway, B0re is really only OP in very few very specific situations. Critical Ascension is probably more powerful, but it’s a bugger to use, even more so than Aurelia’s I never miss.

Oh and I vote for Inspire. :smiley:

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#53

Yes. I will nearly always take a reliable passive over a temporary bonus that can be unreliable. I particularly dislike kill skills.

#54

Not usually a problem wit Nish, who has an Aimbot for an action skill…

But to each his own

#55

I really don’t see I never miss being the strongest single skill on Aurelia. Sure it’s got the potential to one shot basically anything if you build up for that moment for a long, long time or even in mobbing if you literally never miss shots but from a practical standpoint I think Wintertide >>> I never miss.
Just as a standalone skill combining Wintertide with shotguns or skullmasher or fridgia or a plethora of multipellet / high firerate weapons, bonus if they’re already cryo but not necessary, makes it one of the strongest mobbing skills around and it still offers good damage boosts on bosses because all of them have adds around. Also it synergizes really well with a lot of other skills on top of that.

I’ll throw a vote to Maelstrom, Cloudkill and Leadership. Maelstrom is bonkers. Cloudkill after buff is bonkers and I don’t really remember much about Timothy aside from that he is totally bonkers but I’ll just take the other voters word for that being the skill that made it function like it did.

EDIT: typos and redundancy

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#56

Truthfully I don’t have that much experience with her, but ~3600% crit dmg at 999 stacks (or more reasonably, ~300% at 100 stacks) is nuts, especially since her whole niche is freezing things in place, but I see what you mean…

Big picture-wise, she doesn’t break the game like some other VHs, so I guess it’s inevitable that she’s ranked where she’s ranked.

#57

I chose Bloodsplosion, Money Shot, and Leadership in that order. The first two are basically self-explanatory.

Leadership, on the other hand, is one of those skills kind of like Money Shot, where it is powerful on its own, but its true power lies in the synergies created within Jack/Timothy’s skill tree. Leadership basically allows you access to super-powerful kill skills (notably AA) without even having to kill anything, and it is the skill that essentially makes Jack’s skill tree work as well as it does. Having access to free shots via AA with whatever weapon you have equipped is obviously very powerful, but it is only as powerful as it is because Leadership allows it to be essentially always on. And I don’t mean to just focus on AA here, Jack has “all the kill skills at his disposal” (corrosion!) because of Leadership.

If you can’t tell, I really like Jack’s skill tree design. You could make a good argument that Jack’s skill tree in TPS is the best-designed skill tree in the franchise (which does happen to be my personal belief).

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#58

Sorry for two posts in a row, but I wanted to say that if I had a 4th vote, it would be for Megavore. And for mostly the same reasons as I set forth for Leadership (Jack’s similar skill), insomuch as both skills create synergies all over the respective VH’s skill tree.

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#59

Like someone said earlier in this post, its a shame more people didn’t play Pre-Sequel…that game gave us some stupid powerful Vault Hunters

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#60

I’m not really sure where she’s ranked but I’d figure Timothy, Nisha and Athena are probably considered to be above her in general. She’s really, and I mean really good though. If you end up playing her at some point give Wintertide a try. You can freeze everything in one hit with the right weapons, synergizes well with the other cryo bonuses, deals solid extra damage on bosses (which she really doesn’t have a problem with anyway outside of a couple of offenders).

I never miss is good if you spend time building up those stacks or if you’re using something like Droog to just jackhammer into a tanky bosses dome building up a quick burst. I’d argue that in general gameplay Wintertide is the stronger one out of those 2. Not gonna complain about INM being on the list but just thought I’d try to clarify my earlier post a bit.

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#61

Honorable mention “Money is power”
On its own, probably better than leadership.

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#62

I considered that one too…but I think @tysonyar explained perfectly :point_up:t2: why Leadership is so crazy.

#63

Hence the “on its own”
Leadership is a catalyst. Needs to catalyse something.

#64

I’m surprised anarchy wasn’t an instavote for pretty much everyone, considering it makes an entire class and is potentially the highest damage increase in history of borderlands.

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