Kinda surprised people still believe the Money Shot hype when it’s been understood for years now to be a pretty average skill without Inconceivable. The combo is fantastic but Money Shot is far from a one of the most powerful skills in Borderlands. I know a bunch of youtubers and streamers in 2012 said it was OP but I think we should have evolved since then. Put Money Shot on any other character and it’s nowhere near the same league. Can’t say that about Grit, Cloud Kill, B0re, Anarchy, Bloodsplosion, etc. which are amazing skills in any context.
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That’s NUTS…I didn’t even know that was possible
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You forgot the most OP skill of all time.
Inspire - Timothy
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we already done that method with Mayaand Sal. I think it is doable also with Krieg, might be impossible with Zero and Gaige.
I’ve tried it against Hyperius but I could never pull it off, especially with Krieg…too chance-based
I actually agree, it’s one of those skills everybody thinks of when we talk about power in Borderlands games.
But, even without Conceivable, the fact that MS counts the right hand only, means the left hand weapons will ALWAYS get the bonus as long as you have +12 in your main hand. And on top of that, it can be boosted +6 by Raider/Monk COMS…1000% damage is ridiculous compared to any other VH.
And like Nat said, it’s literally one shots raid bosses
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you can one shot most raid bosses with money shot without inconceivable.
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I have to pick Leadership since a lot of these rely on broken interactions, or are huge stat sticks. I think leadership is the most powerful because it synergizes with so many of Jack’s skills across all trees, and works as intended.
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I’m nowhere near an expert on Salvador but the only videos I’ve seen of that are bug abuse so it’s hard to give credit to Money Shot. If this isn’t the case then you’re right that’s impressive. IMO as long as the skill could be amazing on any character then it’s in the running for most powerful. As far as I’m aware Money Shot needs a lot of support to do crazy things, but I’ll accept I might be wrong about that.
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Money Shot requires Inconceivable and other support to really be game breaking.
B0re is up there.
Bloodsplosion destroys worlds.
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I would’ve woted for Krieg’s Bloodbath if it were on the list. I think overall, it’s a better skill than anarchy.
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No bugs, just making sure its the last shot…switch to Lady Fist for the crit…boom:
(@nat_zero_six, first kill…it looks so easy when he does it… 
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Yeah I just don’t think Money Shot is what’s really making those kills happen. It helps but it’s just one piece of Sal’s puzzle. First kill was a classic Antagonist reflection. Other characters can do that too. The rest either leaned on Gunzerk crit multiplication (bug abuse IMO) and/or No Kill Like Overkill. Don’t get me wrong, when you factor in Money Shot it’s a fantastic skill and I was wrong to say it needs Inconceivable because in these cases it doesn’t. But I’m not seeing “most powerful skill” material. Like I said, put it on another character and it suddenly doesn’t hold up nearly as well, while many other skills would be just as impressive no matter who they’re on. Take away Money Shot and Sal probably wouldn’t even miss it, he’s so broken OP.
Not saying that’s the only way to analyze a skill’s power, just the way I choose to.
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Maelstrom is 400% elemental damage at tier 1, and with the right skills provides like 600% fire rate and infinite ammo.
Leadership provides eternal kills skills, which meant infinite ammo, 25% health per second, 25% shield, 80% damage, 30% crit, and some other things I may be forgetting.
Megavor is passive tombstone. Sure you could boost tombstone with a COM, but it being locked to a kill did hurt nisha whenever there weren’t adds around.
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Unfortunately anything from TPS will probably fall behind in the poll just due to fewer users having played the game.
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In that case, I would argue Remnant is a more powerful skill… I have had some remnant orbs hit close to 1 billion dmg.
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Don’t remind me… 
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Yeah unfortunately. Maelstrom is a tier 1 skill that, for a single point, gives more damage that most capstones in the series. The combination of Maelstrom, Unrelenting, and whatever the last skill was basically gave Athena literal infinite DPS. IMO there’s no competition numbers wise.
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Yea this was the only video I could find to really showcase a bunch of bosses in 1…some are exploits, but a large part of that is def Money Shot…
I appreciate the different opinion tho…people completely ignore other skills when MS is a topic of conversation.
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I considered that…but its situational…assuming everyone didn’t die to TTB, it only hit one dude at a time.
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This is far down, and it’ll probably get blown over, but there are a few real winners here I think.
There are 3 I have in mind.
Leadership
Tombstone
Bloodsplosion, in that order.
Leadership I believe is the most powerful skill in the series (though it is close, I will admit) not because of what it does on it’s own, but with how it synergizes with Timothy’s skills and really breaks balance in a good way. Leadership can push any Timothy build into smashing end game with relative ease, and has so many powerful effects. In just the tree it is in, it essentially permanently activates 4 of the most powerful kill skills in the series as long as his action skill is up, which then stays up for like 2 minutes with the help of a tier 1 skill in another tree, which gives him some of the highest dps in the series, ALONG WITH the BEST survivability of any borderlands character in the series. All inbuilt. It’s such a powerful skill, worthy of being a capstone, in addition to being ingeniusly creative.
Next is Tombstone. This skill is dumb for a lot of reasons. And that’s the best way to put this skill. Dumb powerful. It effects ALL damage, not just gun damage, which is it’s biggest advantage over megavore. On top of that, it can go all the way up to 66% chance for any and all damage to crit while its active, with all the benefits critting brings (i.e. skill activations and of course more damage.) All that paired with the skill to its left (homing bouncy bullets) allows you to look at the corner of a room, shoot, and still kill everything, making the game essentially play itself for you. Its biggest drawback is that it’s a kill skill, but that really not that big of a deal especially in TPS because Nisha has no problem getting that first kill in mobbing scenarios, and ads are plenty common in every TPS boss fight that it’s really not an issue.(except like level 9 mutator ShadowTrap, things get a little scary there)
Bloodsplosion is bloodsplosion. No need to argue for it. We all know what it do. If you’re smart with it, it clears out rooms and can even kill raid bosses by itself. Why I have the other two ranked higher is because it requires more set-up, and more playing around it to actually be beneficial. If you slap it on a hellborn build, it’s not gonna do much.
Before I go, I want to discuss Money Shot. Money shot, while being some of the biggest bonus damage off of a single skill in any borderlands game, and still having plenty of uptime to make it powerful anywhere, it’s kinda just not needed or not that crazy of a bonus compared to everything else Sal has going on. Sal’s biggest bonus is Gunzerking and mixing weapon types: bringing lady fist crit over to anything, bringing grog healing over to anything, hell even put the two together for insanely dumb crits. That, plus No Kill Like Overkill, (which you get on every single endgame Sal build) gives you I’m pretty sure more damage than any other character in BL2 besides Zer0. So, it’s like some other people said in this thread, if you were to take it off Sal, you mostly wouldn’t even notice it was gone.
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