nat_zero_six
(I’m Nat and just a Number.)
#19
you can add this @Jefe from Poka.
I have checked his channel and can’t find part 2 though.
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Jefe
(བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)
#20
I never knew this existed - nice find. I’ll review it when I can. But for now I’ve added it to the second post with Luke’s guide.
Also - can you expand on this :
I’d love to know what you’ve done/found even if it’s not ready yet. Or have you recreated the calculator?
And, can you tell me where you got level 72’s base melee damage ( and by extension, what is OP8’s exact damage - all I could get was what the game shows ).
I can’t believe we’re still doing this stuff 6 years later 
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nat_zero_six
(I’m Nat and just a Number.)
#21
Poka explained it very well. 132k is base melee damage for 72 and OP8 formula is (20*1.13^72). it stays the same in the OP levels.
you get 190k i think is because of the 50% damage bonus from a rubi/grog. 198k to be exact.
I will look at my formula, it is quite a mess since i am recreating the damage sun and I are doing as well as yours and strikers. (for the pyro pete run) lol
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Jefe
(བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)
#22
You had posted that the exact is 132,641. Where did this come from?
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nat_zero_six
(I’m Nat and just a Number.)
#23
it is based on the formula of 20*1.13 ^ (level)
- For level 50 : 9015 (20*1.13^50)
- For level 61 : 34580 (20*1.13^61)
- For level 72 : 132,641 (20*1.13^72)
In Poka’s test he is OP8 and he is still getting 132K as the base melee damage (without roid, weapon melee bonus and others).
Here is the formula i have. I am consistent at getting the 582,641K melee damage at level 72, with 566% deception bonus and not the full 650% (566 is equivalent to 4 secs (250% as 1 sec and 650% as 5 secs)
Can anyone open it?
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Jefe
(བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)
#24



So for that : OP8 = 80 , so 20*1.13^80 = 352,619
Factoring in OP8’s 55% damage reduction :
20* 1.13^80 *0.45 = 158,678
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nat_zero_six
(I’m Nat and just a Number.)
#27
ooppps i am mistaken, yeah you are correct.
| Base |
Weapon Bonus |
Damage |
After DR |
DR |
Level |
| 132,641.04 |
200% |
397,923.13 |
397,923.13 |
0% DR |
OP0 |
| 149,884.38 |
200% |
449,653.13 |
449,653.13 |
0% DR |
OP1 |
| 169,369.35 |
200% |
508,108.04 |
457,297.24 |
10% DR |
OP2 |
| 191,387.36 |
200% |
574,162.09 |
459,329.67 |
20% DR |
OP3 |
| 216,267.72 |
200% |
648,803.16 |
454,162.21 |
30% DR |
OP4 |
| 244,382.52 |
200% |
733,147.57 |
439,888.54 |
40% DR |
OP5 |
| 276,152.25 |
200% |
828,456.75 |
455,651.21 |
45% DR |
OP6 |
| 312,052.04 |
200% |
936,156.13 |
468,078.07 |
50% DR |
OP7 |
| 352,618.81 |
200% |
1,057,856.43 |
476,035.39 |
55% DR |
OP8 |
Will try and test it at OP8. I just realized my test are in Level 72.
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nat_zero_six
(I’m Nat and just a Number.)
#29
maybe instead of OP levels we indicate the enemy level.
also i found this follow up guide by voshy, not sure if there is new info in here.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150310033624/http://oldforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=255385
i will look for further infor regarding this one. We will solve this mystery soon.
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nat_zero_six
(I’m Nat and just a Number.)
#30
so this is striker’s inspiration
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Jefe
(བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)
#31
Can’t unfortunately : base melee scales with OP level but the enemies’ levels vary. I’m not sure the range, but they’re probably mostly 78-81 at OP8? Which means 45-60% DR depending on the individual target. All we can do is go with the assumption that they will on-average be at the selected OP level ( meaning 80 for OP8 ).
In other words, I could be at OP6 or OP8 and encounter a level 78 enemy, and my final damage will be quite different ( OP6 vs 78 = 152K // OP8 vs 78 = 194K).
Edit : @nat_zero_six - somehow my BAR was on - I don’t know why, it’s always off for Zer0. I’m an idiot. I’ve rerun the tests and the numbers are good. I’ve erased all traces of my 190K claim 
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nat_zero_six
(I’m Nat and just a Number.)
#32
you got 158k? nice. your melee BAR bonus might be 20%.
passive skills is easy to add, but the active skills is quite difficult to test.
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Voshy
(Voshy)
#33
wow i just found an email in my spam about you tagging me here. but you got the wrong striker 
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nat_zero_six
(I’m Nat and just a Number.)
#34
is it true? are you the first real ninja?
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Either way, @Voshy thank you for inspiring a Legend = @StrikerZidane 
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Great to see you here voshy! The moment I saw that warrior run, I really told myself Melee zero is the character I’m gonna master. Thanks for making that vid!
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Voshy
(Voshy)
#37
well i am the first ninja that decided to figure out how things work i guess
happy to see my videos helped someone pick a character 
Also, how do you quote on this forum, why cant you do multiple quotes? Why is there no preview? This is so much worse than the old one
People here saying @StrikerZidane is a legend and I have no idea about him because trying to browse these forums makes me want to kill myself
And I wluld like to know…
Is there an active discord server you guys use maybe?
EDIT: 4 edits later i figured at least some ■■■■ out
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VaultHunter101
(So long, and thanks for all the fish)
#38
You can do all those things. Preview should be directly beside the editor window (although it can be hidden - look to the bottom-right of the window)
You’ll find lots of information about how the forum platform works here: NEW FORUM BASICS - it actually has more features than the old vBulletin platform.
And as a general PSA: if anyone has a specific question about how to do something not covered in that link, send me a PM and I’ll update it.
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Jefe
(བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ)
#39
If you’re so inclined, take a look at the Time Trial sheet.
Striker has a bunch of Zero and Krieg times. Scroll down to the most recent (post 1200) for a pretty alright Peak run 
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Voshy
(Voshy)
#40
Thanks! Thats pretty impressive, gj @StrikerZidane 
Still wondering if there is an active discord server where active bl2 players are hanging?
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VaultHunter101
(So long, and thanks for all the fish)
#41
There’s the PC thread:
And buried in there is a mention of a Discord server, although I have no idea how active it might be currently - the post mentioning it is from Jan 2016
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