it is based on the formula of 20*1.13 ^ (level)

  • For level 50 : 9015 (20*1.13^50)
  • For level 61 : 34580 (20*1.13^61)
  • For level 72 : 132,641 (20*1.13^72)

In Poka’s test he is OP8 and he is still getting 132K as the base melee damage (without roid, weapon melee bonus and others).

Here is the formula i have. I am consistent at getting the 582,641K melee damage at level 72, with 566% deception bonus and not the full 650% (566 is equivalent to 4 secs (250% as 1 sec and 650% as 5 secs)

Can anyone open it?

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:+1::+1::+1:

So for that : OP8 = 80 , so 20*1.13^80 = 352,619

Factoring in OP8’s 55% damage reduction :
20* 1.13^80 *0.45 = 158,678

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ooppps i am mistaken, yeah you are correct.

Base Weapon Bonus Damage After DR DR Level
132,641.04 200% 397,923.13 397,923.13 0% DR OP0
149,884.38 200% 449,653.13 449,653.13 0% DR OP1
169,369.35 200% 508,108.04 457,297.24 10% DR OP2
191,387.36 200% 574,162.09 459,329.67 20% DR OP3
216,267.72 200% 648,803.16 454,162.21 30% DR OP4
244,382.52 200% 733,147.57 439,888.54 40% DR OP5
276,152.25 200% 828,456.75 455,651.21 45% DR OP6
312,052.04 200% 936,156.13 468,078.07 50% DR OP7
352,618.81 200% 1,057,856.43 476,035.39 55% DR OP8

Will try and test it at OP8. I just realized my test are in Level 72.

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maybe instead of OP levels we indicate the enemy level.

also i found this follow up guide by voshy, not sure if there is new info in here.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150310033624/http://oldforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=255385

i will look for further infor regarding this one. We will solve this mystery soon.

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so this is striker’s inspiration

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Can’t unfortunately : base melee scales with OP level but the enemies’ levels vary. I’m not sure the range, but they’re probably mostly 78-81 at OP8? Which means 45-60% DR depending on the individual target. All we can do is go with the assumption that they will on-average be at the selected OP level ( meaning 80 for OP8 ).

In other words, I could be at OP6 or OP8 and encounter a level 78 enemy, and my final damage will be quite different ( OP6 vs 78 = 152K // OP8 vs 78 = 194K).

Edit : @nat_zero_six - somehow my BAR was on - I don’t know why, it’s always off for Zer0. I’m an idiot. I’ve rerun the tests and the numbers are good. I’ve erased all traces of my 190K claim :wink:

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you got 158k? nice. your melee BAR bonus might be 20%.

passive skills is easy to add, but the active skills is quite difficult to test.

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wow i just found an email in my spam about you tagging me here. but you got the wrong striker :smiley:

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is it true? are you the first real ninja?

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Either way, @Voshy thank you for inspiring a Legend = @StrikerZidane :+1:

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Great to see you here voshy! The moment I saw that warrior run, I really told myself Melee zero is the character I’m gonna master. Thanks for making that vid!

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well i am the first ninja that decided to figure out how things work i guess

happy to see my videos helped someone pick a character :smiley:

Also, how do you quote on this forum, why cant you do multiple quotes? Why is there no preview? This is so much worse than the old one :frowning: People here saying @StrikerZidane is a legend and I have no idea about him because trying to browse these forums makes me want to kill myself :frowning: And I wluld like to know…

Is there an active discord server you guys use maybe?

EDIT: 4 edits later i figured at least some ■■■■ out

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You can do all those things. Preview should be directly beside the editor window (although it can be hidden - look to the bottom-right of the window)

You’ll find lots of information about how the forum platform works here: NEW FORUM BASICS - it actually has more features than the old vBulletin platform.

And as a general PSA: if anyone has a specific question about how to do something not covered in that link, send me a PM and I’ll update it.

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If you’re so inclined, take a look at the Time Trial sheet.

Striker has a bunch of Zero and Krieg times. Scroll down to the most recent (post 1200) for a pretty alright Peak run :wink:

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Thanks! Thats pretty impressive, gj @StrikerZidane :smiley:

Still wondering if there is an active discord server where active bl2 players are hanging?

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There’s the PC thread:

And buried in there is a mention of a Discord server, although I have no idea how active it might be currently - the post mentioning it is from Jan 2016

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Yeah it was a pretty alright run lol. I hope we get @Voshy back to Bl2 and compete in the melee zero section at least

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yeah turns out i am already on that one, but it’s not really active, thanks anyway!

I hope we get a new Borderlands game so I come back to that :smiley: And i really never enjoyed playing any BL game alone, so those those time trials are not really my thing…

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There’s coop section both ninja only and with other characters :wink:

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Yeah but we killed every raid boss with 1 bullet back then, if that’s still possible there is probably no point in coop time trials as nothing can beat that that time if done right i would expect? I will check the videos on your link out when I find some time…

Anyway, I don’t think any of my previous partners are ready to come back to BL2 for now, we really played this game a lot and had enough, so i doubt it… At least for now. If I knew someone that still plays, I would probably hop every now and then, but I didn’t see anyone in BL2 on my friend list in a looong time :slight_smile:

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