#60

Nah I could have swore I remember my buddy falling from somewhere in Krom’s canyon from higher up down to the ground and dying… I just don’t remember many deaths from just falling to the ground unless you fell from a ledge into the
"Death wall" lol

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#61

Oh. You must mean during the begining. I thought you meant during krom’s fight itself. A “death wall” is any barrier that will instantly kill a player. Examples are cliffs that are guarded by turrets, and the bottom of krom’s canyon in the arena where you fight him. I honestly dont remember fall damage ever killing me in the game to be honest. Ive honestly never died to fall damage after level 20 or so because of the way your health scaling and shield strength interract with fall damage. I bet you could fall from higher if you went to overlook in rust commons east though.

#62

So that’s why my graphics and key config was totally butchered when I returned to the game after a long break.

You’ve mentioned auto pick up for money and ammo, which would be great. I’d also like a larger “pick all” area. Perhaps it’s just my BL2 bias talking but the area you pick stuff up from in BL1 is is annoyingly tiny.

Campaign reset would be my biggest hope. Would be nice to take a high level character through it all again. Is there any way to do this on PC? PM me if that’s something that is not supposed to be talked about on board, please.

If there could be a change to a whole DLC, I’d really like it if Underdome was made more interesting. The length and repetitiveness of the arenas is such a drag and besides the 2 skill points on different difficulties there is nothing to gain in the whole DLC. It’s a constant slaughter with no story. That sort of thing tends to be pretty fun in Borderlands games but the Underdome is just boring, at least for me.

I need to google the .ini file changes. That FOV is giving me a headache.

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#63

Id say the distance and height you pick things up, automatically or otherwise is pretty important, but mostly overlooked. Borderlands 2 was on the right track, but excluding eridium didnt make sense. The height and distance in battleborn seems ideal to me, although a lot of things you grab in that game seem like they are just there so you have things to pick up.


There are tons of useful bits of info on this page. I especially like changing the FOV, startup movies, ragdoll duration, and high quality bloom. You can actually make the FOV whatever you want with this method.

#64

Thank you, I’ll have to look into it. I found some tutorial on FOV earlier but it didn’t work so hopefully this one will.

Oh, and one more (I didn’t check if it’s on your lists already): Bloodwing and terrain

My suggestions would be to either

a) Make Bloodwing go through walls. Best solution for players. He’d never get stuck again while it wouldn’t change how he otherwise works like not attacking enemies you don’t see.

or

b) Make the timer for forcing BW to return when stuck way shorter than it is now. There is some timer for when the game just forces a BW reset but it’s ridiculously long. This is not so nice on players but would probably be a lot easier to fix by just changing a number and would at least make it more bearable.

Forcing Mordecai players to wait for what seems like an eternity in a heated situation if BW gets stuck is torture.

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#65

Definitely try doing it exactly how the guide says it first, because it worked for me for a long time. However, if you find it doesnt work, try putting it under [Engine.PlayerImput] instead. I had to try that after i noticed the method on the guide wasnt working for me anymore. I put it right above bInvertMouse=false, basically the last key bindings listed in that section.

#66

Yep I agree and for replay ability make side missions replayable.

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#67

Here are a couple I didn’t find in a quick doc scan:

  1. As you enter the hallway leading to the control panel in the armory, there’s a spot in the floor that the player can fall through if they’re full of Tao. I have 3 completed sets of characters, and none of them can complete the last story mission in Knoxx because they keep falling through the floor.

  2. In Crawmerax’s Lair, there’s a spot, where the ledge meets the cliff wall, where Crawmerax and his minions can’t detect the player. So, the player can attack Craw, but Craw can’t attack the player.

Probably not many noticed these minor bugs.

Pfft

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#68

Well in my opinion, those bugs shouldnt be fixed.

You mean the well known armory glitch? You kinda have to try to fall through that one first off. Secondly, it enables a really nice place to farm peralescence. That being said, id be fine with them fixing this bug if they also…

  1. Made the armory run truly repeatable
  2. Added a fast travel to the armory, or atleast the road’s end
  3. Make pearlescence a bit easier to find
  4. Made knoxx take corrosive DOT

Those changes would make the intended run more accesible. This way, it wouldnt just be them unwittingly castrating a part of the game a lot of people really enjoy with nothing planned to take its place.

You mean the spot that lets people playing single player actually experience crawmerax the invincible? Have you played the son of crawmeraxx headhunter DLC? They actually reference this glitch in a posotive, and nostalgic way. Heres a thought, if you want to fight crawmerax without that exploit, just dont use it. Its certainly not an invasive glitch.

You drinkin’ steve?

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#69

Not Tao is doing. Tao is not doing. You mustn’t do something to pass through the floor, you must not do and allow the floor to swallow you.

Take off those training wheels and fight Craw like a gotdam man. (This is the non-gender-specific usage of ‘man’.)

No. It means this:

  1. You’re saying that if GBX remasters BL, that people , including you, won’t buy BL3 unless it includes your fixes.

A) There are many BL players who like that it isn’t BL2, and don’t want to see many of those changes.

B) You’ll buy BL3 even if Pitchford tweets a vid of himself making kittenshakes, let alone if a player still has to pick up money and ammo in BL1.

  1. “Pfft” is an expression of incredulous disagreement. Like, “You won’t buy BL3 if a (not even in the works) BL remaster isn’t remade to be a giant BL2 DLC? Sure ya won’t.” That’s just my opinion on that kinda thing.

Addendum:

2008: We want vehicles in games. More vehicles. All the vehicles.

2010: Aww, we have to drive on highways and fight other vehicles? We don’t want vehicles in games, we want teleporters. I hate driving, vehicle combat, fighting bosses. Just teleport me into the Farmory. I want to fall through the floor, and pick up loot out of boxes. And fighting Craw sucks, unless I don’t have to fight him, and can just click the mouse until he dies and spews Nemesis/Invaders. In fact, why even have him at all. We should just teleport to Crawmerax’s Lair, and there should be Nemesis/Invaders on the ground already. Screw it, my backpack should be full of Nemesis/Invaders when I step off the bus. Then I won’t have to do any of this sh*t. Picking up loot, vehicle combat, boss fights -who needs it, amirite?

Addendum 2:

Having said that:: yes, I may have had a couple drinks. Is that so wrong? I’m celebrating the birth of your savior, for Chrissake.

#70

Ah. Still doesnt refute what i said though.

I did. Wanna know how? With Roland. Just Roland on single player. No phasewalk. Not even brick’s movement speed boost. My first time killing craw was just a roland, and a killshot taken at his back with an s&s sniper rifle. It took way too damn long, but i dont regret it because im glad to have done it once. Once. Ive since killed him legit as every character, and used the ledge to kill him at least 50 times.

My point though is, your advice is horrible advice. This advice would rather cut craw off as a farming source all together for me, or make my enjoyment of the craw ziltch. And if im not enjoying the game, why would i be playing it in the first place? Either way, your advice makes me play borderlands less, and i wanna have more reasons to play it, not less.

I actually said

Enphasis on “could”, but i wrote that a long time ago. Now i think itd be more accurate to say that making a port of borderlands 1 that makes it crappier would still dissuade me from getting 3. I say this because it would make me not pre-order, but wait what reviews would have to say about it. And if people whos borderlands opinions i trust say 3 is bad enough, i prolly wouldnt buy it (full price at least). This is my opinion because a worse version of borderlands 1 released right now would show the devs or publisher dont really think about what makes borderlands fun as much as what makes it sell better. And this sentiment would make me wary of BL3.

In the words of Liam Neeson, “Dont Presume.”

May i once again refer you to my friend Liam Neeson? Youre projecting onto me some very interesting philosophies about how you feel some people play games pointlessly. Have you ever stopped to think about why you play video games, and if it really has any more of a point than the way someone who actually enjoys all of the extremes you mentioned above has in having fun? You seem to have a macho disposition that leans towards the masochistic. It aslo seems to prevent you from reasoning in any way but sarcasm.

Listen, i agree that over-coming the right obstacles feels good in video games, but that fufillment you feel doesnt give you the right to judge others that just want to unwind and have what they consider to be a good time. Maybe there are people that deal with so much ■■■■ over the course of their day, they just wanna feel in complete control when playing video games. Why do they have to adhere to your specific video game convictions that work for you?

Who are you to tell me how to enjoy my video game?

So how about this? If all of us get the option to repeat the armory quest, warp right over, and use a corrosive rocket launcher on knoxx, you can just not do those things. I wont judge you for it.

ICR, its fun to get into it about borderlands after a few.

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#71

Once you learn how to kill Craw quickly, you’ll never go back to the Farmory or use the ledge again. It’s just that simple. Bite the bullet and learn how to do it, or continue to use the ledge that takes ten times longer and comes with absolutely no pride.

This is a matter of opinion and individual psychology. It’s no secret that this type of game exploits our addictive impulses with reward cycles. Some psychologies are satisfied by accomplishing the task, and view the loot as a symbol or token of that accomplishment. Others view the loot as an end in itself, and the task as being annoying and unnecessary.

In other words, to some, the game is learning to defeat the boss. To others, the game is merely getting the loot, and the actual game play is just an impediment. Some people want the trophy without actually winning the championship.

I doubt anything I say on a forum will make you want to play a game less. If it does, that’s on you.

Whether or not GBX remasters BL, or remakes BL, as would be the case with all these changes, has no effect on the quality of BL3.

It’s clearly the kind of statement that you read a lot of gaming forums from fans, “If the devs do this, I’ll never buy another game of theirs”, or the converse, “If the devs don’t do this, I’ll never buy another game of theirs.”

OK, well, if you seriously refuse to buy BL3 because the Bl remaster (which doesn’t even exist, and if it did, probably wouldn’t precede BL3), is not a remake of BL into a BL2 DLC, then I suspect that you’ll be among a very small group of people, because that’s an oddly specific and obscure objection.

That is a question that you should ask yourself. You’re the one who wants an existing game to change for your comfort, thus, the thread. If you want to play BL2, play that. Or play a casual game where you click a mouse, and you either win something or you don’t, where you don’t have to actually fight bosses or fight through hoards of enemies to get the loot.

BLhas loot, of course, and that’s great. But it’s still an FPS, fighting enemies and bosses to get the loot is the point. If the loot is the point, and fighting enemies/bosses is something you want to skip, then you’re looking for a casual game where you click a mouse and win something without fighting enemies/bosses. And that’s fine, but this game is an FPS/RPG, so if you want to make a point like -

  • then you should understand that my position isn’t a personal conviction, it’s the genre of this game. In the case of Craw and the Farmory, you just want to push a button and collect loot, and that’s not an FPS, that’s a casual game. I mean, when we’re talking about an FPS, fighting enemies/bosses isn’t a matter of my opinion or personal conviction, it’s the nature of the game.

Like I said, it’s an FPS, if you don’t want to fight enemies/bosses, that’s fine, but it is an FPS, so don’t come at me like it’s just my personal opinion that FPS games are about shooting enemies.fighting bosses, etc.

Fight me, MF!

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#72

What the heck is Tao? The only way I’ve fallen through the floor is by the usual Farmory Glitch method. If you just sprint through normally (or jump over the area in question) you’re fine.

Or are you saying that you glitched into the armory and then accidentally went through the elevator room? If that’s the case, you could try asking around if anyone still has the mission open and doesn’t mind you joining their game to complete it.

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#73

Enough personal comments and drama.

That stops now. Take it to polite pms if you simply must have that kind of discussion.

#74

I remember someone rebuking me (before they had the laser attachment fixed to their monocle :slight_smile: ) about the farmoury when I first joined the old gbx forums.

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#75

Good times…

Feels like a long time ago, that.

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#76

Indeed and sorely missed on my part.

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#77

I didn’t read the block of text after the list parts… but, I don’t think they should change too much in BL1. bug fixes sure, but not adding things like higher class mods etc.
or features not needed like crawling in FFYL

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#78

How about this? Who needs a functional Reaper, Amiright?

Screenshot_2019-04-03%20Borderlands%20Game%20of%20the%20Year%20Edition%20Review%20-%20YouTube

I’m a purist, but I’m not gonna lie: I kinda wanna use this gun. I feel guilty about that, but I still want to use it.

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#79

Lol the list itself was a block of text. Ive made an abridged list because of how bloated this thread got.