PSA: PC won't have aim assist at release

Battleborn Open Beta Open Beta General Discussion/Feedback
#44

Here’s a clarification on where we’ll be on retail launch for PC:

  • No Mouse and Keyboard Aim Assist on PC. You won’t have the option to enable it, it won’t be on. We accidentally let this slip into to the Beta build. It was not intended to be there.
  • If you use a controller on the PC, you WILL have the option of Aim Assist

We understand this issue is polarizing for some people, and have kept close attention to this thread and to other threads and videos talking about the issue.

Please understand - our goal is to make a game that is fun AND fair in competition. We’re looking at a lot of data and play, and will continue to watch this trend as the game goes live. I think you guys have seen that we’re very willing to consider and make changes to the game. If we need to make further adjustments to the aim assist to maintain the quality of the game, we will.

Thanks again for the discussion!

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Aim assist - Should it be removed?
#45

Thank you so much for the clarification on this!

A little dissapointed that controllers/consoles have aim-assist, but I get it’s only fair. ;p
I never use a controller on my PC, so I was wondering
 Can’t someone still use the mouse and keyboard while a controller is plugged into the laptop? And if yes, how can the game recognize what one uses?

I’ll like this comment in 4 minutes by the way


#46

The game fairly seamlessly switches between the two schemes depending on where the last input came from.

if you have a controller plugged into the pc, and then use a mouse, you’ll even notice that the button glyphs in the UI change to m/k glyphs. If you tap anything on a controller, they change to controller glyphs (and I think, even for the type of controller you’re using).

FOUR MINUTES! PENCILS DOWN.

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#47

Crap. 5 minutes on submission. Sorry I missed the deadline window. :slight_smile:

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#48

Thanks so much for the clairification and just over all great communication with this game.

@fyrefox45 Does this help?

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#49

Thanks for the clarification, at least 1 more copy of battleborn sold :slight_smile:

While youre here
 will the game have VAC or similar enabled? Thats whats way more a buzzkill in games than any controller users will ever be. So many bad battlefront memories lol

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#50

I totally forgot to like that earlier post on time. Oops. Liked it now, still don’t have enough likes to like everything I want to like. :cry:

:open_mouth: I was not expecting an answer that fast, thank you for making that clear to me. No idea how tf it’s possible the game does this, but I am happy it does!

#51

We do have anti-cheat measures in place. As you might guess, we aren’t keen in going into specifics on this. But it is important and already in our system.

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#52

@Jythri
What would prevent a PC player from using a keyboard/mouse controller emulator on his PC to gain aim assist while using his keyboard/mouse?

These are hardware emulators normally used by console players who hate controllers–you plug your keyboard/mouse into the thing, and it into your console, and the controller commands are sent on to the console based on your keyboard/mouse commands.

I imagine they’d work the same way on a PC (I’ve not personally used one as I don’t console game anyway, so I could be wrong and they just won’t work at all on a PC), possibly fooling Battleborn into thinking you were using a controller (gaining aim-assist) when you aren’t. That would lead to a competitive advantage for those who care about such things.

#53

I too thought of that but that’s such a specific scenario that i don’t care tbh. Unless they already have it for a console ( and if they do have a console they’ll probably just play BB on it ) i don’t see people spending money just to get that little of an advantage, a good hardware emulator ain’t that cheap.

A software emulator though 
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#54

Hush! 
 Don®t give the sissies any ideas!!! :scream:

#55

I figured it’s just something for the GBX devs to consider. Who in their right mind would use a controller on a PC anyway? Madness! But
some do.

Is it worth it to support aim-assist for PC controller users? Software emulation might be something that can be spotted, but hardware is another story. There will be players who try for whatever competitive advantage they can get, and that would flatly defeat the purpose of disabling aim-assist on PC’s to begin with.

#56

I would like clarification if this applies to controllers as well. I prefer PC gaming but prefer (always use when available) using a controller instead of mouse+keyboard but one thing I hated personally was that mouse was still allowed since it provided an advantage. If it is allowed but Aim assistance turned off for that but not controller then I think that’s a decent compromise.

#57

What you said. When I was playing the beta I was thinking of al these people on PC who had it turned on and I was pretty pissed, because I refuse to use aim assist even though it puts me at a disadvantage(I turned it on for one game to see if they actually were mad enough to really put it into the PC version,and the fact that for Kleese’s taser all I had to do was hold the RMB once I got on my target was simply disgusting.)

#58

Thats what they’re doing. Nice to see I’m not the only controller user on pc lol

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#59

Unfortunately the aim assist is probably so high that it is still a competitive advantage to use controller on PC, same as it was in Titanfall.

#60

For some games (usually due to bad KB/M support) a controller is better. I’m sometimes forced to use a controller due to wrist/finger/arm pains, or abrasions on my wrists. Controllers are simply more ergonomic than KB/M!

I didn’t really care about the aim-assist and whether or not people were using it, but controller support and aim assist even on PC I feel is required if you want to reach a wide audience, which multiplayer games need!

#61

PLEASE make sure if it is allowed on PC a player with a fusion reflex controller and aim assist does not dominate ranked. I think for ranked, aim assist should always be off.

#62

I am confident if controller aim assist proves to be overly advantageous the devs will nerf it.

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#63

This.

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