PSA: Please Stop Leaving Matches

I actually just commented on this in another thread. While I understand exactly what you are saying and can completely empathize with it, my only issue is that the game doesn’t provide a tutorial, save for the very quick explanation prior to the pvp match starting.

I can’t fault the players entirely. I direct fault at the fact that there is no built in tutorial/ video explaining what people should do in each mp mode and how to win. It’s possible some people got to CR 100 strictly through PVE (although unlikely), but PVE teaches you nothing of the pvp modes.

Granted, some know exactly what to do and just forego the objective strictly to pad their K:D.

Until GBX puts in an mp tutorial/short video of the basic elements players need to understand in mp to win, you could be reporting someone that honestly just does not know any better because the time wasn’t taken to inform them.

I recall being CR 2 loading up MP for the first time and kind of hearing Nova in the background talking, but I was more focussed on what helix option I was going to pick. The doors opened and I had no idea what was going on.

IMO, I don’t think they can put in an unsportsmanlike report function until they actually explain to people how the game works.

Cheers.

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I feel like this is more than enough, simply because you hear it at the start of every match, it’s reminding you tnat you’re not playing team deathmatch butsome people simply choose to ignore any part of the word “objective”

Oh me too, there’s so much going on and so little time to learn it all lol, maybe then a tutorial would be a good idea, the Prologue isn’t really applicable to PvP. I don’t report people under CR50, but by the time you’re CR100 there’s no excuse for blatantly disregarding the objective of the game and playing CoD.

I do not have a screen shot of the team’s CR beforehand so I can’t accurately say what rank they exactly were, but I can say my group was full of randoms, and myself and one other teammate were the only 100s on the team with the others trailing behind from the 50s to the 80s [basically some seasoned players] and the opponents were at around the same levels as my team and two were in a premade. I don’t remember if the Orendi was a beginner but i added the higher ranks quitting and leaving the lower ranks because it is a growing trend, this match was just the straw that broke the camels back for me.

I honestly can’t say if repercussions have been dealt with those who are reported, but it does put me at ease that there is a way to combat less than favorable players, so i kinda agree with you, but i don’t think it’s there for that reason. I have faith in gearbox the that they’ll dish out some punishment sooner or later [if they already haven’t]

There will be no repercussions towards players reported for this behavior. As long it is not hurting the game economy or the industry way to make profit, players that leave matches won’t have any major consequences. Like I said, it is just another false security method that most players fail to realize. It is like when you are required to sign when you pay with your credit card in the supermarket. Do you think something happens if you sign under another person’s name or even sign as “This is Fraud”?..of course not!

In my opinion the less than favorable players are those that wish to do permanent harm to other players(like getting them banned) because they enjoy the game differently.

One of my first matches on release day all of my opponents save for the Miko quit. He was getting Thralls. I pinged him. Our entire team slapped him off of the ledge. Oh, the good ol days.

Unfortunately, I get weird exception errors sometimes, and get kicked out of the game. :frowning:

Observation: They really left that person all alone? Wow, dick move of the highest caliber.

I really don’t understand people rage-quitting instead of surrendering. If you’re not having fun, just call for a surrender vote. If the match is going poorly, there’s a decent chance it will go through.

Overall, I’m glad we can now report leavers so I’m hoping once some bans start coming down, we’ll see less of this behavior. Again, I just can’t make any sense out of it though. Better to just surrender.

Didn’t someone somewhere post that rage-quitting doesn’t record any stats of the match? Could see people being OCD about that instead of having a surrender on their record. Not saying it’s right though, definitely not.

Were familiar with what to do but new players haven’t the slightest idea. Remember when we first picked up the game? Clusterfuck but fun, eventually you learn

the grind in this game is laborious, slow, and requires lots of wins

because of that players are highly motivated to bail on matches that don’t get them to their progression goals

blame gbox’s progression system

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Oh, I recall. I was SOOO lost until someone took the time to explain What the heck was going on. Mostly because I asked questions. Unfortunately, not many people on Xbox use their mic, so they do t ask the questions. I can’t do much about that though.

The difference for me was that I got to learn the game during the CTT where everyone was kind of on the same playing field. I couldn’t imagine starting now when tons of people have a firm grasp of the characters.

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Grind to what? Titles? Literally nothing in this game REQUIRES wins except for titles which are cosmetic and not part of progression at all. By leaving matches, people are harming their own progression by not getting XP for playing. Maybe I’m forgetting something, but I have no idea what you are talking about.

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I’m sorry but i have to disagree. When they leave matches they get little to no xp and so they hinder their own progression. Gearbox is not to blame, it’s the players who leave are at fault.

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im sorry but looking at the mods the top side has shows they were clearly in control of the middle and was reaping all the crystals.

Also looking at the level differences, it shows that the top team was basically dominating the bottom.

So looking at it from the bottom player base, instead of waiting for surrender, it was probably faster to leave the match and let the game die out quickly so they could requeue for a better balanced game.

In short i have no sympathy for the OP, because his team was clearly unbalanced for the bottom team to handle.

I’m not asking for any sympathy [especially for me] but rather imploring other players to not leave their teammates high and dry when things get hairy because it makes it harder for them. as i said it was one little push especially around the time shards came so it was mostly good timing on our part and bad on theirs. After that 1 by 1 and it’s most likely after the 1st one left the others followed suit like a domino effect. if they stayed we probably wouldn’t be “dominating” who knows?

It doesn’t help that people can drop the map at the map selection screen and the match starts anyway. You can’t report that at all.

i know right? it sucks

That’s because experienced players know when an upcoming battle is outmatched. For example you got a team with 2 members below level 10 against a full team of level 100’s. Even though there are some level 100’s that are still beginners in skill level, the odds are still stuck against you. I tend to leave those type of battles or even matches when my team are going against Newbs.The smart choice for the remaining team to do is to have 1 more member leave In order to prevent the match from starting.

I can understand some players refusing to surrender or leaving loss matches. There are a couple of reasons, primarily due to simple moral values( like never give up, learn from your loses) they may/may not have in real life or to acquire titles/exp/lore etc. However, there are other players like me that don’t care about any of that. We simply enjoy the trilled of an equally skill based match whether we win or lose. Those are the battles where we learn and enjoy the most and not from overpowering or getting overpowered. by much better players.

People have different experiences. For example, I have personally, in 370 hours, not seen this infamous “someone on your team quits even when you are winning because they have bad stats.” I just haven’t. Here is what I have experienced:

  1. Our team is losing badly, behind in levels, gear, and wayyyyyy behind in kills. They other team pounces on each of our teammates, as they each helplessly feed one by one. The other team easily kills first sentry, and is now pushing on the last sentry. There is 20 minutes left in the match. But for some reason the winning team isn’t killing the final sentry. They’re just waiting for our team to feed them kills. My friend and I, typically carrying the team and the only ones with a positive KDR, vote for surrender. It’s time to move on to the next match. This is rational, reasonable, and correct.

  2. But lo and behold… there are two people on our team, with a joint KDR of let’s say, roughly, 1-25. THEY of course are so valiant and upright that they vote against the surrender. They are the trolls. Surrender is sometimes appropriate, and it appears to be a law of physics that the absolute worst players are the ones who always vote against surrender.

tl;dr: surrender is usually rational and in everyone’s best interest. I personally have not seen these mysterious troll surrender votes that people report.

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