#64

You say hammerlock “finally” changing sides like it’s a bad thing he’s homosexual.
Pretty messed up yo.

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#65

Characters in stories change.
I suggest actually reading books from time to time.

Were the technology ever discovered, wouldn’t it be their choice to decide to use it (Gaige and Hammerlock)?
(…or rather, the game developers…).
As such, Gaige would be the mom by then, raising kids, the spot Moxxie filled in the current games (she would most likely be a grandmother by then… Brick and Ellie? He even said, “I’d punch that…”.).
Gaige would be passing the torch to her progeny, she wouldn’t be the playable character in BL3.

As to Hammerlock choosing his own life’s choices… I’m just running with what Gaige said in the DLC… "but if Hammerlock ever switches sides, I am so lookin’ that down."
People with common conditions finding common ground creating a friendship, love blossoming…
I feel sad for anyone who’s so small minded that they think sexual preference isn’t a choice.
The mind and the brain are what a person uses to decide what they do.
So go tell a paralyzed man in a wheelchair he can never compete in a marathon.
Go tell anyone with a physically limiting genetic disorder that they’re less of a person and therefore aren’t entitled to pursue life to their fullest rather than wallowing in pity for their physical condition.

No one puts a gun to someone’s head and says, “this is the only choice you get in life and you will accept it.”

If somewhere down the road Hammerlock’s fancies and interests changed and he desired to sire children, why is it so sadly gaddam difficult for some people to accept, “people have their own right to decide what they want to pursue and do throughout their life” ?

That they shared a common physical condition would bring the initial friendship.
But to be so damn close minded that, “well by the current story, he’s gay, so he could NEVER EVER fall in love with a female” is an absolute total crock of horse sh*t.

Too many small minded binary-thinking people in the world, acting like everyone should only ever be entitled to two choices and no other, and never entitled to change and choose otherwise later, as their experiences and desires shape and change their aspirations and pursuits thru life…?
THAT is what’s messed up, yo.

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#66

It’ll probably bite me in the ass delving my hands in this bag of ferrets, but anyway.

It does sound like you’re implying that you can switch sexual nature nilly willy.
I certainely didn’t “choose” to be bisexual, it was something I found that out during puberty. Not by choosing, but by understanding.

Neither did I choose that I’m pre-op MtF transgender, I had to discover it. Which took way too long, and it threw me into a rather severe depression I only recently managed to recover from.

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#67

Wow, that entire drawn out tirade over me saying that being homosexual isn’t a bad thing,
No one said he couldn’t choose to not be homosexual anymore. I fear for this new generation.

#68

…I was just going to tell them to stop being a “cupid me” by saying people belong together just because they have cybernetic limbs.

#69

Ah but see, it was the dev team who wrote the Moxxie Valentines DLC who decided to script Gaige to say, “if Hammerlock ever changed sides, I am so locking that down.”

It wasn’t anything petitioned by the hetero community demanding to imply, “we need less, blatantly forced homosexual ideals pushed in this game.”

As I saw it, Gaige was attracted to him EXACTLY because they shared that semi-mechanical similarity.
Then again, like 20,000 other lines in the game, maybe it was all just off-the-cuff humor and we ALL need to take it less seriously: it’s just a fantasy game, after all.

Maybe some people are just… genetically dispositioned to have a hard time accepting reality so instead choose to surrender to fantasy to instill in them what should or shouldn’t chose in life…?

I’ve had lactose intolerance since I was a child. Does that mean I have to accept, “life says I can’t eat ice cream” ?
No, I just learned how to better chose in moderation with dairy products I can better tolerate than others.
Just like no one is pre-dispositioned to be a vegan: you chose your lifestyle and what you do to cope with your traits.
You chose what to stand against.
You chose what sides to take.
You chose what to surrender to.
No one forces it on you. You make a conscious choice to get on that bus.

#70

Ah I see, I only played the valentine’s day DLC once in a couch co-op session and that dialogue probably got lost in a splosion as they are want to do.

The assumption that cybernetic similarities would be the driver of attraction… well someone probably made it when writing the dialogue, too, so score one more for “cupid me”.

Most people’s theory of mind is based on their own mind… you’d be surprised how many people make a lot of their “choices” subconsciously – not everyone engages rational centers over such things, and not every mind is as free from the influence of emotion and mood as the more intellectually motivated. And that’s a good thing a lot of the time.

#71

youve missed the point that he was commenting on your use of the word “finally”. but nevertheless the following ramble was 100% accuracte. cant help but mention however that none of the above encounter has any relevance to the thread. glad you got it off of your chest though :slight_smile:. back to bl3, i quite like the idea of the next installment being narrated by a reminiscent Hammerlock. think it would be a good vehicle for some crazy plot that would if nothing else help the writers more coherently structure the main story. great idea

#72

I dropped a formula suggestion for it awhile back, something like a majority or exclusion based on the product and manufacturer. Something like 2Vladof barrels and a Torgue barrel (or 3 Vladof barrels) would get the majority vote of a Vladof -barrel, and exclusion would trigger with the result of 3 different barrels being any manufacturer but those 3, making for a relatively predictable system. Wasn’t limited to just barrels, of course.

#73

Honestly, why does he have to be? I liked the distinguished English persona he had initially. I had this discussion with Mr. Burch before he left gearbox employ. Real world influences should definitely not impact the game world. That’s the beauty of coming up with a imaginative creation.

#74

Because why not?

So basically with that logic, why give any character likes and dislikes? Why make them seem like people at all?

Its adding depth. Story. Personality. It makes them more relatable. It makes them more individual. More unique.
Maybe it’s just me, but giving characters the smallest of details to their life, be it sexuality or what sort of food they prefer, makes them seem more real. And when they seem more real, the character and story and game is more enjoyable.

Moxxi has always flaunted her sexuality. Why aren’t you complaining about that?

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#75

Moxxi does not flaunt it her sexuality. It simply is. Much like sir hammerlock being gay.

#76

Well Kitty, eh, I know a lot of guys might not like me saying it, but yeah her showing so much of her breasts isn’t what really defines Moxxi, maybe a certain number of folks think it goes hand in hand with just who she is. Everything from her having genuine concern for Ellie to really feeling broken up over Roland dying just adds more depth to her character. I know she’s a tease/exhibitionist, idk kitty I just feel she and several other characters Id like to see more of their personality, including the love/hate relationship between claptrap and Hammerlock. Overall the stories been good, just would like deeper fleshing out of them, and not as much emphasis on her flashing her breasts which is everywhere if you want to really find that on the net. Maybe I’m nitpicking.

#77

Low gravity is why I did not replay TPS. It moved way too slow. I was done after the first playthrough. If it comes back in BL3 that would be very disappointing.

#78

I mean you’re free to your opinion. If you read the entire post you replied to then that’s all I really have to say. Although it would be interesting if you changed your opinion if it was implemented in a well designed game, like say if BL2 had an event with global low G.

I also think you should give the game another shot since you already own it. Only one playthrough total is nothing, and you should at least try the low G in the Claptastic Voyage.

#79

Personally I’ve been reluctant to pop TPS back into my replacement PS3 because that’s what I was playing when it YLOD’d. I know it’s probably not the game itself. But between the low gravity, getting knocked around by blasts, and even more screen pollution from special effects there were often large periods of time when I could not even see tell what the hell was going on… which is fun and good game balance in brief spurts, but not if it happens quite so often than in TPS. BL2 had it about right.

Really enjoyed the Claptastic DLC though… very funny.

I wouldn’t be averse to some areas of low gravity. We do have a space station to destroy, after all.

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#80

I loved the low gravity. Made it easy to leap and just take potshots.

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#81

It’s not, my aim is always to play with all classes, but I could not bring myself to play it again. I remember feeling it was a chore to do side missions in TPS, I played the game as fast as possible because it was too slow, skipped mos side missions. In BL1 and 2 side missions were fun and entertaining and I couldn’t get enough of them. TPS felt like a chore as a whole, i’m a BL fanatic and felt I was obligated to play it, but it really wasn’t as enjoyable as BL1 and 2. I finished it simply just to get that out of the way and have a peace of mind that I played it. But I did not like it. There’s no way I can play it again.

#82

Related to this, I love doing Superman Punches in “Destiny”; would like something similar in “Borderlands 3”.

Also, updated on my EMS concept for B3 in regards to aerial movement and wall-running.

@kelv88: I’ll agree that TPS was slowed by the whole zero-G thing, even in atmospheric environments, of which the last part (IMO) should not have happened, but zero-G in moderation… I’m a little more open to. In atmosphere, I’m maybe looking at something like “Destiny”.

#83

I own BL1, BL2, BL:TPS, and I’ve been re-playing BL2 recently. I’ve seen that BL3 is currently being working on but without much info.

a “few” more points:

  • remove slag or keep it for very specific use (for example limited to action skill and grenade)
  • give some love to assault rifle, I feel that with a SMG and a Sniper you just do everything better. An even better accuracy and less recoil could do the trick.
  • Make “normal” weapons for manufacturers other than Jacobs usable in end-game, I’d like “normal” weapons to have something special, such as increased critical hit damage.
  • eridium weapons in BL2 were good, better than lazer in TPS or alien weapons in BL1
  • give some love to “grenade launchers”, carnage shotguns in BL1 were bad, dahl / jacobs assault rifle with torgue muzzle are bad in BL2
  • I feel that shields would need some rework. I always feel that dahl shield booster would better fit for a tediore, that “nova” is not really a bonus (because many times you die to a barrel explosion in the process)
  • We miss some self healing, that’s why transfusion grenades and moxxi rubi are so popular, so I’d rather remove them and create a self healing mechanic. But that would not imply tons of “health potions” :slight_smile:
  • I feel that hyperion bonus on weapons is missing the spot, either it lead to too good weapons (shotguns), or almost unusable weapons (sniper rifles). The negative recoil is fun but ain’t that good as it is.
  • keep “bandit” weapon camo and name. I miss S&S but bandits weapons are cool looking. I was very disappointed by “SCAV” weapons camo (and name) in TPS
  • keep claptrap (s)