you level characters in pvp?! i’m sorry it is FAR easier to just solo some advance missions as reyna and get tons of exp…
They’re referring to leveling up mid game, not gaining character ranks.
Pretty sure the OP means gaining levels within a single PVP match, not gaining overall levels for Reyna to unlock mutations and the like.
To the OP, Reyna is the hunter-support. She doesn’t defend points like Kleese does, she doesn’t wave clear/CC like Alani does, and she doesn’t pack either the zone or single-target healing of Ambra or Miko. What she does do is pair with an assassin type and go make bodies. You need to think function relative to objective. Reyna doesn’t clear the lane. She helps kill dudes.
The best indication of this is just HOW her “healing” works. Overshielding is the height of proactive “healing.” She’s not healing, she’s stopping damage before it happens. She’s ensuring that your assassin will survive to make the kill, and given her forthright (and effective!) arsenal that’s focused on single-target hits, she can even make the kill herself.
So when running with an assassin, shield them up, Priority Target, and see who can get the kill first. You might be surprised at how many you end up with.
At least as I understand it, the fundamental “objective math” of Reyna is that 2 hunting 1 will succeed more quickly, and spare themselves more damage. This is also why Reyna’s ultimate is excellent for repelling the counter-attack that’ll come after you assassinate (or participate in the assassination of) opposing Battleborn.
Are you saying its hard to shoot bots??? Alani and Miko also can’t slow an enemy for 12 seconds and they can’t negate all ranged damage and they can’t prevent crits and can’t remove debuffs… I agree I do believe the aoe was intended for this but if your playing support unless your entire team has been killed there’s no reason for you to ever have to solo a wave…
She doesnt need too? May have to sometimes. I’m saying compared to all other supports, or all other CHARACTERS, she has a horrible time of tagging minions for exp.
As said, just get assists. If there’s no assassins on the team, don’t play her.
Well I personally prefer using her alongside brawlers rather than assassins but that’s just me
Still works decently
As said, thats a pain in the ass for reyna. Miko’s kunai doing poison damage makes it REALLY easy to tag a minion, it’ll take damage so long hes guaranteed to get assist exp .She has no AoE to multi-tag waves like alani/kleese/miko, unless you mean assists on player kills which is totally different. Again, she has a mutation THAT IS CURRENTLY USELESS that is supposed to do this.
I loved her for support while I was mastering her but yeah, she has a very hard time getting levels in pvp early ish on. I had to work five times as hard for a fraction of the xp. One of the only times I raged at my randy teams who actually used mics was with her because they kept ditching me to clear minions off the sentry AND we’re crying I wasn’t at the enemy sentry to heal them. Reyna just doesn’t have the dps to kill minions worth a a damn.
I use a zero shard attack speed boost to get more exp from minions early game. Definitely helps when u get the Lv 2 slow as well.
I use a 0 cost shard gen, atk speed and reload speed for my build.
For me i play a more defensive, buy everything kinda reyna. By 10 minute my whole base probably has all turrets maxed out. And by then I’m probably close to or already lvl 5 or more (without kills. With kills it’ll be way faster)
A couple of times leveled to 5 before the rest of my team due to the tons of buildables i buy.
Since you’re not a direct healer, you don’t need to be in the face of combat often. So just run everywhere and get every shard. If you control midlane (overgrowth) shard runs are easy. If not, just keep going back to base (when it’s OK) and grab shards along the way.
As for killing minions, try to aim for the crit spots (middle red eye for small one and the head for the humanoid one). You’ll do quite a bunch of damage.
Plus they just upped her damage even more for pistol.
Tldr, get shards, build stuff, aim for crits, get thralls (didn’t mention this), buy more stuff, get shards Oh and get shards. Ofc not to mention to do your own job and save idiots who like to sentry dive too often. If they still die then it’s their fault. And priorty target everything (you’ll get free assists) and shield every thing.
Thats like making it a 4v5 though. Plus, allies may need shards, and to build stuff for exp. Also, any character can do this. This is not a reyna thing.
Priority Target the ranged minion and use explosive plasma shots for AoE to wave clear. It’s not rocket science.
He’s asking how to level up fast. Any character can do this, that is true. Hence making my whole point pretty much correct.
He wants levels, this gives levels.
As for making it 4v5, you’re always in lane. Except when going back to take shards (WHEN YOU CAN, I think you missed this bracket note). And reyna is a support. Her heals are based off cooldown (except right click) priorty target is a also a skill. The only ways she can assist is through normal attacks which she does indeed is slightly lacking.
Lastly doing your job of collecting shards while your team SUCCESSFULLY pushes is doing a good job. Shards spawn on a timer after they are collected. The faster you collect (when you can) the more will spawn for your team (assuming you hold the lane).
Its only 4v5 if you’re not doing something beneficial for the team.
I just explained the plasma AoE helix does not work, not even for tightly packed minions. And yeah use PT on minions and not enemy BB, great idea.
I guess objectively comparing similar classes to make suggestions is pointless then. Too much e-peen “i did it so its fine”
On the bright side, they buffed Reyna’s laser pistol damage by 20%, so there’s that. Will help take out the shepherd that much faster.
ah, sorry, must have missed that the explosion doesn’t work. I haven’t really played until this humble bundle release. I played a lot during the beta, but I didn’t dig too much into Reyna until this week. Thoroughly enjoy her dynamic skills though.
Reyna by far is the worse support for wave clearing, but she isn’t the worse for level’ing by much honestly. It’s just a weird way to do it.
I’ll give you my tips into level’ing with her.
- Overshield or target the biggest wave clearing teammate
If you are not engaged with another player and they have no overshield, then overshield your teammate. Just like when your opponent kills a player, you will also get assist experience for wave clear if you do this. Also targeting the biggest mob will give you assist experience if your overshield is on cool down. I want to say if you target your teammate you get assist experience but i’m not sure if that’s true.
- Target your opponent.
On top of priority target, if you do a regular target on your opponent you get assist experience if that opponenet is taken out. This literally can give you an assist without doing any type of damage. Seeing as Reyna is good for marking targets you can actually alternate between these two and keep your chances at exp up.
- Stay between your DD"s and tanks pre level 5
Until you can get your active cooldown skill, stay close to your attackers with visual sight of your tanks incase they need help. You will get more experience assisting the attackers, but you may need to oversheild your tanks depending on the circumstance. Bounce priority target, overshield, and your single target between all foes and get all the exp that area has to offer. Once you get level 5, your abilities will be on cool down so much faster that you won’t have to hard focus getting that type of experience
- Don’t be afraid to assassinate
With the increase to Reyna’s laser pistol damage she can burst down single targets extrememley fast (At level 10 i’ve gotter her to do up to 111 bullet damage = 1,300 a clip). Go for slow at level 2 and start assassinating unsuspecting opponents when in one on one encounters. You will be almost be guaranteed a kill or assist. If you have another healer that is doing extrememley well, then don’t be afraid to take that damage buff at level 4 instead of healing, it makes a huge difference in DPS and you and your attackers will melt faces.
But yea I also agree that she does need a bigger AoE on her level 3 mutation, but depending on the situation I might go with more laser pistol damage now that it’s gotten the buff. Too bad that her plasma pistol damage hasn’t gotten a buff too cause it’s fallen in comparison at the moment.
You do get exp for this as long as the minions die while they have the shield on, dont like doing it for that reason unless in a team and they understand. Also dont like per-emptively using it when nobody needs it just in case.
That’s why I say if not engaged, situations where you know you will have your cool down ready again incase if you get player encounter. It may seem unsafe but it isn’t as unsafe as I thought as if you wait until player encounters chances are at the lower levels it’s not as big a boost as expected. You will help in the long run anyways as you won’t be falling behind in levels if experience is the issue.