About 1 hour ago played shield game with Flash.
He attacked me initially at around 8 minute mark. I’ve repelled the attack. We went on building up.
Game went for i believe around 40 minutes.
At the end he had full swarm (and he did not even built multi guns he built heavy vettes so confident he was of his victory) his frigate composition was 10 assaults and rest ions. And at the very last minute (more like 30 seconds of the battle) he had bc which got popped fairly swiftly. I had 4 destroyers 1 bc before battle begun 3!!! tower control units in proximity to his ships. End of the battle. He loses mothership and escapes with 2 carriers. I lose all of my swarm (on 3 hahaha tower control units lol this is just utterly plain wrong guys, cmon ^^, either tone down Taiidan or Up Hiigaran, swarm balance between Taiidan and Hiigaran needs to be thoroughly retested or assault frigates needs to get revisited or make pulses stronger, i do not know.
I knew that Taiidan is overpowered on small maps such as shield but having superior amount of destroyers and battlecruisers and 3 towercontrol units lol. Id fairly certainly say i should have won swarm battle with pulsars and swarm on 3 tower control units as heavy corvettes are more of an anti frigate unit rather than swarm in traditional sense. Ok if you would like to make it hard for hiigaran fine, lets make sure hw1 still win but i should NOT lose ALL of my swarm on 3 control units. That is completely broken.
Apologies for the harsh and a bit of a… spirited post but spending 40 minutes of my time only to lose all swarm and concede the game after pwning Flash’s mothership and all of his frigs with me having 3 destroyers and 2 bcs left (1 was at 15% structure and second bc got built shortly after final battle ended) that is not how i envisioned the ending of this game heh.
At the very end (not the battle but actual game before conceding) i lost all of my destroyers to his heavy vettes 1 bc and all of my collectors. He had 2 carriers back ru spot and was trying to sneak in collectors to collect in front of my nose lol
I am sorry Flash may disagree however, i’ve completely had this battle through superior ru management and build order with Flash having idle collector for close to 2 minutes in the beginning of the game near the carrier, it did not stuck you just did not move it lol.
I’m also fairly certain my ru management is pretty good, it was very hard to shuffle things around with close to no ru lag and to spit out 3 tower controls, i was clicking mouse and pressing keys like madman heh.
Anyways this is FYI to Gearbox and folks who was testing Taiidan and Hiigaran to let them know that:
Either assault frigs op. Or Tai swarm is op. I wish i had more information but that was a very fluid game.
I know we bouncing around taiidan assault frigs too weak i believe some year or so ago we need to make them stronger now we moved into opposite direction, either swarm or assault frigs so strong that hiiga swarm + pulse on 3 tower control units does not stand the chance.
I appreciate anyone who was reading my rant.
I’ve tried to overcome Taiidan during id say 30 or so shield games after patch, i’ve tried it all. I do not believe it is my severe lack of skill the reason that I absolutely can not beat skilled Taiidan.
Fairly certain there are other reasons…
I do not mind losing to Taiidan at all however during 30 or so shield games i did not just lost i was utterly obliterated. This is not counting shield games ive played against intermediate and newbish opponents, sure i did won but that does not count.
I very much appreciate time Gearbox and Testers vested to make things better. These balance issues i could see being fairly easy to fix from the code point of view as these are just numbers in weapon and other “parameter” files. We just need to find golden middle.
With best regards. GhostRider.
EDIT1. Forgot to mention that i had full fleet of frigs as well.
EDIT2. To preempt some questions. One question could be raised to me “at what point you could say that balance between Taiidan and Hiigaran is good”. My answer would be that i would be fairly content that things are balanced if i would lose 70-80% of all shield games vs skilled Taiidan and win 20/30%. At the moment my ratio is 100%/0.
I could not win against skilled Taiidan not a single time. Not once. That prompts me to believe that there are severe and valid balance issue between these two races, and yes i have no problem with Taiidan/Kushan being stronger races on small maps due to racial asymmetry, it was always like that and i think it should be preserved. However the more i play 1v1s and more i lose vs skilled against whom i could win fairly easy with hw2 vs hw2, i start to believe that there are indeed valid balance issues.