#41

Isn’t there a resistance cap?
You can’t truly become immune to shock damage right?

#42

You can … best way to do this is the Transfomer shield, which grants shock immunity and even heals you on receiving shock damage.

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#43

Ok lets go.

SoR pros:

  • Nice damage

  • Insane shield capacity

  • Shock resistance

  • Overall all in 1 tree, and by that i mean you can get away with just investing 100% in that tree.

  • The best class mods are based on SoR.

SoR cons:

  • Dmg isnt top of the line.

  • Biggest and most overlooked con, having less than half hp means you give up the most important thing in the entire game in terms of tankiness, the health gate, you can effectively get 1 shotted with SoR.

  • The capstone of the tree doesnt work at all, it has literally 0 uses unless you avoid all the health reservation bonuses.

  • Most of the dmg comes in kill skills, wich is not optimal in many cases, its fun tho, but not optimal.

  • Having 100k shields is nothing if there is absolutely no way of sustain the incoming damage, shields are so high that shield regeneration is nothing, even if the shields are low the regen is still quite horrible across the entire game and its items, there is no perk that allow her to keep regening even after recieving damage. So to make it sustainable you need to invest in other trees and abuse the game mechanics, in other words you end up playing the broken grenade build all over again.

I could keep going…

Overall i think SoR actually needs a buff, not in dmg, but in shield related stuff, and a fix in the last skill too, that is key.

#44

Well Thats tight, i didn’t know about that shield.
still though, I wonder if getting it to 100% by means other than that shield would actually work. Like say 10/5 of that one Vladof perk or something.

For example right now my all my gun damage percent buffs don’t actually up to what they say at all.

#45

I think its also possible to get to 100% with other bonuses - probably a combination of Vladof Ingenuity boosted by a class mod and additional shock resist on an artifact. But I’m not sure if its worth it, as shock damage is not very common - having even a mediocre resist will be enough.

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#46

Shields themselves can have a percentage resistance against Shock same as any other element and can stack with Vladof Ingenuity. That said the Transformer does make for a much more effective means for it, making the effect a bit redundant but for the max shield increase. Pair that with Thin Red Line and a Deathless relic and you’re in business. Plus you have other shields that work well with her like the Stop-Gap or Recharger.

You can easily flesh out the bulk of the tree all the way down to the cap and still get most of the Bottomless Mags tree at the same time. You won’t make it to Forge but you’ll still have a lot to give her sustained DPS even if she can’t rely on her kill skills against bosses.

#47

Excellent tree, the only shame is a capstone skill being sort of anti-synergetic with HP reservation to shield mechanics.

#48

A couple of Moze’s skills are like that. “Click. Click.” for example. In a tree that promotes big magazines and high fire rate weapons it seems counter-intuitive to have a skill that does more damage the lower you magazine. With certain guns and a full Forge build, I never go past half ammo as long as I’m hitting crits. “Click. Click.” also doesn’t play well with Selfless Vengeance as reloading kills the damage of one for the other, which hurts possible fire builds you may want to do.