Short Newbish Questions

Borderlands 2 Krieg the Psycho
#4

Sorry, I donā€™t understand this answer:

I would like to know how the damage I do to myself by setting myself on fire is calculated.

Itā€™s just the regular damage you take from being on fire like any other character, but then reduced by your Damage Resistance. So the more Damage Resistance you have, the less damage the fire will do.

I do not mean how much damage I take when an enemy sets me on fire, but rather how much damage I would take when I set myself on fire. I mean: the damage done to me cannot be just a mirror of the damage I do to others ā€“ right? I mean, if I shoot a bandit and ignite him, doing say 100 fire DoT, and by doing so ignite myself, then I will take damage (how much? 100?). But if I hit him half a second later, and my fire weapon procs again, he would be taking 200 fire DoT for like 7 and a half seconds ā€“ are you saying that then applies to me? And if my Flame of the Firehawk ignites then 8 other bandits, I am going to take the damage I give them? That sounds really awful and counterintuitive to me. I had thought I get ignited just once, and stay ignited as long as my self-igniting skills proc, and that the damge I take by setting myself on fire and staying that way is not dependent on the damage I outputā€¦?

#5

You take the exact same fire damage you would normally from being set on fire by other enemies. Not by how much damage you do to them.

#6

THanks - And how much would that be? I mean, ignition canā€™t always be the same amount of damage???

The net fire damage I do is used for Empathy though, right?

#7

I donā€™t know. I know the damage you take from DoTs increases in the OP levels, but I donā€™t have exact numbers.

#8

Paging Dr. @xmngr. Youā€™re wanted in surgery.

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#9

Yeah, it does. But higher is EEmp healing as well.
Thatā€™s why Krieg can tank OP8 enemies nicely

thanks for the mention gulf :smiley:

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#10

Anytime. You are the BBQ man after all. :wink:

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#11

am i?
i feel honored now

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#12

Thank you one and all. I tried it out myself by speccing into Hellborn, and had quite a toasty time. Fun! When I hit 31, I specced back into Mania, and havenā€™t specced back out yet. I have to say that Hellborn was indeed a tiny bit more fun, but for a newb like me, Mania at 31 just canā€™t be beat ā€“ all I have to do is make sure I donā€™t die while rampaging, which so far has worked nicely, and start rampaging as soon as my health is low enough ā€“ so far, I have only hit FFYL once. I even meleed Saturn to death. So Hellborn will have to wait until Iā€™m all grown up ;.) Thanks for everything

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#13

Sorry, does throwing your axe during BXR count as "melee " or is throwing axe damage calculated differently?
Thank you

#14

Itā€™s about 60% of your melee damage, but it does get the buffs from Silence the Voices and roid shields I believe. @DankRafft should know more.

#15

I canā€™t remember the exact portion/percentage of damage when throwing the axe but ā€œabout 60%ā€ seems correct IIRC. Everything else is correct, too. Furthermore you get some utility by staggering an enemy with a thrown axe which is especially useful vs. kiting enemies.

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#16

Thank you muchly.
Just so I understand and plan accordingly: Does it ā€œcountā€ as ā€œmeleeā€, though? I read somewhere that the game treats the axe thrown as a pistol (but perhaps I misread). I wanted to know if points spent in skills such as Empty the Rage apply.

#17

If Iā€™m not mistaken the axe I coded as a bandit pistol. Iā€™m not 100% what that effects besides it gets dire rate boost from relics and the like.

#18

Yes, it counts as melee and all melee damage bonuses from skills apply to it. The thrown axe is treated as pistol in terms of fire rate/throwing frequency. Thatā€™s it.

#19

Yeah. Both the Sheriffā€™s Badge and Elemental Elation will increase it, right?

#20

Correct.

#21

itā€™s fun, but the BX is quite versatile xD
set enemies on fire, down buzzards, make enemies explosde, slice bandits like no tomorrow, make bloodsplosion chains
DAMN, it only needs a coffee making ability xD

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#22

Sorry, hope someone is still reading this, last questions about mission items.

  1. Since I havenā€™t found great loot yet (did find my first plasma caster recently ā€“ fun!), I actually still rely on some mission items. But since most mission items you can only get once per playthrough (since once you complete the mission, you usually cannot access the item generator anymore), I want to plan one or two correctly. Example: FotF. I already tossed my NVHM version out. If I wait until I finish the main story in TVHM, I can get a level 50 one by not accepting ā€œEnkindlingā€ until then ā€“ right? Which means: 1. I get a nice level 50 FotF, and 2. I canā€™t use one until 50. OK so Iā€™ll deal with that tradeoff. Iā€™m 42 now and using a 34 RR from Normal. And then when I enter UVHM, hopefully soon, Iā€™ll ā€¦ what? I mean if I wait too long, my TVHM-FotF will be pretty outdated, but if I get it too early, then I will miss out getting a really good one for the endgame ā€¦ no?

  2. On a related note, another question: I accidentally ported to Hunterā€™s Grotto upon starting TVHM ā€“ does that mean the whole DLC is stuck at around 38 (my level when I entered TVHM), or will it start to scale when I go back? I left the main area and didnā€™t even meet Hammerlock in TVHM there yet.

  3. Iā€™m asking partly because I think my first question is related. I would like to upgrade my RR, and I believe I can get a RR from Bulwark even after I complete the quest. So, conceivably, I could go there now (before I finish main storyline), at level 42ish, get a RR, and then come back at 50 and get another? Or am I mixing something up again?

Thank you for your patience and help with my newbness.

EDIT: two last ones:
a.I found all 5 vault symbols (Cult of the Vault) in Sanctuary with Gaige, and Iā€™m pretty sure I remember where they are, but Iā€™m missing one now. I canā€™t seem to get Krieg up above the alley behind Marcusā€™s. Is there some other way?
b. Do you ā€œholdā€ the Grog Nozzle when in BXR? In other words, does it heal when you melee in rampage or when FotF flares when in Rampage?

#23
  1. You can reset UVHM as many times as you want, but youā€™ll start back with Clappy outside of Liarā€™s Burg. I wouldnā€™t worry about farming until level 72.
  2. Everything scales to level 50 after youā€™ve defeated Jack.
  3. You need to get the mission to kill him first. But he does have a chance to drop one every time you kill him afterwards. It should scale to your level (+/- 2). It wonā€™t go over 50 in TVHM though.
  4. Cult of the Vault locations. Krieg can access all of them. Jump on the bench outside of Marcusā€™ shop, then the awning near it, then on the roof. Jump over his sign and you should be able to get to it.
  5. You only hold your ax.
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