#85

BL3 wasn’t that bad. And yeah, story focus more on women than men. So what ? How many games focused on male heroes ?
Problem is not that NPC heroes are girls, problem is that they’re poorly written.

And for endgame gameplay, delete Mayhem 2.0 , delete useless anoints, and you’ve got a far better endgame.

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#86

Since 2K is a public company and must report revenue, they did in Feburary and placed BL3 at about 8 million copies sold (through). Don’t know what the average selling price was, but the number is there.
" Borderlands 3 has sold nearly 8 million units, and the company expects Gearbox Software’s title to set a record for the Borderlands series."

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#87

What does ‘sold through’ mean in this context? Company financials aren’t my regular reading material (although that might actually help my occasional insomnia)

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#88

Financial reporting tricks.

One technique that companies often used in the '80s and’90s was to report sell in numbers as revenue, vs. sell through numbers, to make their finances look better.

Sell in means We put it on a truck and shipped it to a retailer. It does not report on whether the retailer actually sold those products, or whether those products were subsequently returned to the manufacturer. There are well-documented cases of manufacturers loading up trucks on the last day of a quarter, driving them off the premises, then the next day driving them back to the plant. So the sell in on the closed quarter looked healthy, even though the products came right back.
Financial reporting has become stricter since the height of this practice, and most companies now only report sell through, sell through meaning shipped and in consumer hands.

Of course in the digital distribution age most software sales are de facto sell through since the purchase and download are generally co-incident. However, since console games still can and do ship physical discs , sell in can become a reporting problem.

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#89

Ok, so maybe if you put NPCs in the hero role, they should behave more complex, unforeseeable, like give you impossible tasks.
And so we’re liberal, why are all characters humans, why not alien heros with multiple genders, like in Ringworld?
Graphics and landscapes are more beautiful and diverse than BL2, so basically the creativity in BL3 is more superficial IMO.

#90

Zer0 in BL2 and Fl4k in Bl3 don’t seem to be very human. although definitely human-like in shape. Plus Fl4k is non-binary, so have that base covered too :slight_smile: - although it created a bit of kerfuffle at launch, IIRC.

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#91

I’m not a liberal. I’m not complaining if all of the heroes in a story are males. But I’m not complaining either if they are females.

Even if Ava was a boy, or an alien, or an helicopter, she would still be an annoying brat that deserves to be thrown out of the airlock.

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#92

the hate for ava is real xD

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#93

Probably for the best, they seem incapable of balancing end game.

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#95

A post was merged into an existing topic: Bad Posts (for individual posts not topics)

#96

It’s a shame, in my opnion, to make it harder for people to talk about certain topics. @Volny and @moustangman posts were interesting to read.

It wouldn’t be that HARD for moderator to split these posts to discrete topic (named something like “BL3 through the lense of politics, economics and philosophy”).

wink wink
,moderators plz,
wink wink

#97

Sure. But posts that breach the rules get flagged, no matter how ‘interesting’ they are.

And anyone with a beef about moderation should know that the correct action to take is a pm to the mod team.

#98

When they do a BL4 they need to make sure the game is a lot more stable/better performing. I am still crashing at least once every single session on PS4 and load times are as long as ever. I don’t care if they have to scale certain graphics back as long as it can run and perform at the level of the Handsome Collection on PS4.

Aside from that, my biggest wish would be better balance/feature planning and foresight (seriously some of it feels like the left hand not communicating with the right) but overall I feel like DLC3 so far feels very good in overall design.

Most wanted vault hunter for the next game would be something really wacky or unusual like Claptrap or Krieg, maybe make Maurice a vault hunter would be fun both visually and possibly mechanically.

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#99

A post was merged into an existing topic: Bad Posts (for individual posts not topics)

#100

Borderlands became a billion dollar franchise last year with this game.

Of course theyre gonna go onto 4.
But first theyll throw in alot of free fun dlc. Buff everything. Try to leave A good impression and fun on ppl by smoothing stuff out.

Then itll go on sale. Have a ■■■■ ton of content be worth buying cheaper. Alot more fans for the next installment.

Ppl like action but they also like rpgs. This has a target market… Other games dont have this sorta gameplay feel. Cept Doom.

Its gotta loyal fan base. All they gotta do is better fix ppls problems and theyre gold for pre orders as everyone will forget how bad mayhem n other probs were once stuffs fixed.

I just hope with 4 they dont use players as an experiment again live. Thats not cool.

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#101

tbh I say no if the same devs go bl4 what will be the difference bl4 will just end up as a new bl3

#102

@Psychichazard where is this : (https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/bad-posts-for-individual-posts-not-topics/423/254)

You moved mine and many other’s “bad posts” to that thread, but when I click the link its a dead link.

#103

That’s a moderator-only section.

#104

BL 3 made lots of money. You could argue, that is reason alone to make a 4. That assumes a BL4 can have success after all the bugs and problems of BL 3. Bad press and word of mouth can doom a future product.

So the ‘should they’ will be answered by suits, not the developers.

From a customer viewpoint, yes, they probably should move on. That is problematic however. They still have to write one more DLC, presumably more takedowns and annual events. I don’t know how big GBX is, but fixing bugs, writing new content, and starting to write and entirely new game is keeping a lot of balls in the air.

Add to that consumer demand in a competitive landscape. If they even hinted there was going to be a 4, people would demand, demand, demand. This demand has lead to a lot of games being released before they are ready. We the consumer, own some of that. You can have it done quickly, or you can have it done properly. Rarely can you have both.

Personally I don’t have a real desire for a 4. I still have characters I haven’t played in 2 or TPS. And I still haven’t installed BL1. That will keep me happy and busy for a while.

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#105

GBX and Ubisoft should team up to make a 3rd person borderlands. Picture custom characters plus parkour. Assassin’s creed odyssey and borderlands baby. That would be MINT.