It took them this long to crap their pants so spectacularly. Not interested in 4. Not buying any of their products ever again.

Liberal ideas are no problem as long as they do not interfere with the fun part.
In BL2 you could choose what type/gender of Hero you wanted to be - in BL3 the story totally focuses on the NPC girl heroes Eva, Lilith and Tannis that it becomes annoying.

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To be fair when the announced bl3 had sold 5m it wasn’t exactly true, they were sold in, not through.

Who knows what the actual numbers are.

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i rly think they should move on
the game is laggy
hard to play at times
crashes alot of times
every now and then a patch comes around and it becomes 100% unplayable

just take the vaulthunters
keep them, make 2-4 more and make it 8 vault hunters at start… or make 2 and give everybody a deeper skilltree with 3 choices on each 5 point row… some like zanes blue tree have like 1-2 choices and thats it. thats rly thin.
make a 4th tree

design the entire game to naturally scale into lategame, they did not do this here, and thats a fact. more hp is a solution for ppl who have no idea how to balance lategame.
just do the halo aproach where they do more and more things as mobs the harder it gets,

dont start with 5 raritys, make it 6-7
mayhem exlusive gear becomes pearl, and split ■■■■ more often. several legendary gear is purple gear in gold…
add a new piece of gear like melee weapon rocket boots or something.
so you can actualy go melee and rly go in depth with that.

bring back seraphs or rainbow, either seraphs for takedown and raidboss gear, or you make rainbow for combi gear that works once you have 3 pieces of them. this adds alot of cool options

then get the base game right, add all the secret endgame bosses you forgot like vermi, a base raidboss oldschool, and one after story takedown.
on basegame release, this makes it so much better and you can also split the story into, main story and we finish it in a takedown.

keep proving grounds and circle, but add em to the dlcs… pls…
make events headhunter addons. that makes it longterm content

overthink how annointments work, and give any vaulthunter the option to play em all to some degree
best example what doesnt work is, zane and moze having no real use for on actionskill end, give them as a 4th tree a short actionskill
just an example,

make classmods work better
release zane was a mess, and zane now has a classmod that is the only real way to play him, seeing dead vs seeing red is a dumb situation that has no right to exist.

BL3 wasn’t that bad. And yeah, story focus more on women than men. So what ? How many games focused on male heroes ?
Problem is not that NPC heroes are girls, problem is that they’re poorly written.

And for endgame gameplay, delete Mayhem 2.0 , delete useless anoints, and you’ve got a far better endgame.

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Since 2K is a public company and must report revenue, they did in Feburary and placed BL3 at about 8 million copies sold (through). Don’t know what the average selling price was, but the number is there.
" Borderlands 3 has sold nearly 8 million units, and the company expects Gearbox Software’s title to set a record for the Borderlands series."

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What does ‘sold through’ mean in this context? Company financials aren’t my regular reading material (although that might actually help my occasional insomnia)

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Financial reporting tricks.

One technique that companies often used in the '80s and’90s was to report sell in numbers as revenue, vs. sell through numbers, to make their finances look better.

Sell in means We put it on a truck and shipped it to a retailer. It does not report on whether the retailer actually sold those products, or whether those products were subsequently returned to the manufacturer. There are well-documented cases of manufacturers loading up trucks on the last day of a quarter, driving them off the premises, then the next day driving them back to the plant. So the sell in on the closed quarter looked healthy, even though the products came right back.
Financial reporting has become stricter since the height of this practice, and most companies now only report sell through, sell through meaning shipped and in consumer hands.

Of course in the digital distribution age most software sales are de facto sell through since the purchase and download are generally co-incident. However, since console games still can and do ship physical discs , sell in can become a reporting problem.

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Ok, so maybe if you put NPCs in the hero role, they should behave more complex, unforeseeable, like give you impossible tasks.
And so we’re liberal, why are all characters humans, why not alien heros with multiple genders, like in Ringworld?
Graphics and landscapes are more beautiful and diverse than BL2, so basically the creativity in BL3 is more superficial IMO.

Zer0 in BL2 and Fl4k in Bl3 don’t seem to be very human. although definitely human-like in shape. Plus Fl4k is non-binary, so have that base covered too :slight_smile: - although it created a bit of kerfuffle at launch, IIRC.

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I’m not a liberal. I’m not complaining if all of the heroes in a story are males. But I’m not complaining either if they are females.

Even if Ava was a boy, or an alien, or an helicopter, she would still be an annoying brat that deserves to be thrown out of the airlock.

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the hate for ava is real xD

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Probably for the best, they seem incapable of balancing end game.

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It’s a shame, in my opnion, to make it harder for people to talk about certain topics. @Volny and @moustangman posts were interesting to read.

It wouldn’t be that HARD for moderator to split these posts to discrete topic (named something like “BL3 through the lense of politics, economics and philosophy”).

wink wink
,moderators plz,
wink wink

Sure. But posts that breach the rules get flagged, no matter how ‘interesting’ they are.

And anyone with a beef about moderation should know that the correct action to take is a pm to the mod team.

When they do a BL4 they need to make sure the game is a lot more stable/better performing. I am still crashing at least once every single session on PS4 and load times are as long as ever. I don’t care if they have to scale certain graphics back as long as it can run and perform at the level of the Handsome Collection on PS4.

Aside from that, my biggest wish would be better balance/feature planning and foresight (seriously some of it feels like the left hand not communicating with the right) but overall I feel like DLC3 so far feels very good in overall design.

Most wanted vault hunter for the next game would be something really wacky or unusual like Claptrap or Krieg, maybe make Maurice a vault hunter would be fun both visually and possibly mechanically.

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Borderlands became a billion dollar franchise last year with this game.

Of course theyre gonna go onto 4.
But first theyll throw in alot of free fun dlc. Buff everything. Try to leave A good impression and fun on ppl by smoothing stuff out.

Then itll go on sale. Have a ■■■■ ton of content be worth buying cheaper. Alot more fans for the next installment.

Ppl like action but they also like rpgs. This has a target market… Other games dont have this sorta gameplay feel. Cept Doom.

Its gotta loyal fan base. All they gotta do is better fix ppls problems and theyre gold for pre orders as everyone will forget how bad mayhem n other probs were once stuffs fixed.

I just hope with 4 they dont use players as an experiment again live. Thats not cool.

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tbh I say no if the same devs go bl4 what will be the difference bl4 will just end up as a new bl3