#42

i have waited for about 4 years and hostly nothing could have been possibly done any better in the reveal trailer then it already is but i still do want to voice the sole concern i have. after the recent greedy paws of epic snatching every AAA game under the sun i am very concerned that bl3 will be another epic story exclusive which honestly would be a deal breaker partially because id like to have my bl games in one place and also because of the sheer amount of money i have spent on borderlands and other steam games in general. epic games store has literally nothing in the features department except the “play” button and would be very discouraging to me as a player. but after seeing epic games play around with hundreds of millions of dollars i am concerned that an exclusivity deal would every cheap relative to the amount they earn and enticing for 2k.

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#43

It’s a day after the reveal, and various counters are showing that the reveal trailer has been viewed more than 5 million times (did some rough factoring for dups).
That shows a hell of a lot of pent-up demand. And that demand will not be met by the Epic store (or any platform exclusivity), and TakeTwo Interactive (the publicly traded parent) has said repeatedly that they are counting on this release for a major revenue bump this fiscal year.
That, to me, means multi-platform at launch.
–RoA

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#44

I honestly hope they back themselves in here.
To me, if they believe in the game they’ll want to get it in as many stores as possible and cast a wide net. Potentially make bigger dollars than what an Epic exclusive would give them for a year by maximising the customer base.

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#45

Honestly, I’m playing it on PS4 or just waiting so if it comes out on Epic Store my problem will more be with the fact I don’t ever plan to use Epic Store and it would just be for this damn game alone. It would make me a bit irritated.

However, Take 2 isn’t a company totally gripped on doing this; I’m sure Randy is as a CEO, but T2 is much more likely to go the normal route. The trailer was a teaser and we’re likely getting a presentation and a little gameplay on April 3rd; let’s see what that tells us. Maybe we’ll get Steam Exclusive and a gun with legs that explodes.

#46

I hope you’re right. However, it worries me that they didn’t announce the release date on PAX, because that usually means announcing platforms as well. (Like in BL Remaster trailer and Handsome Collection UHD trailer). And they didn’t want the crowd boo-ing at epic exclusivity.

I hope you’re right and it’s just to build marketing hype or something.

#47

Thanks. A lot of useful info there.

I downloaded Borderlands Handsome Jack Collection last night so I can get back in the world before the hopeful 2019 release of Borderlands 3!

#49

I understand the gaming industry is about money, but recent news has me really concerned for Borderlands 3.

Let me say first I absolutely LOVE this series. Borderlands2 is EASILY my favorite game of all time and I have been dreaming about Borderlands3 for years. I can emphasize enough how much I have pushed this game over the years and how many people have bought it because I have hounded them.

Recently the news was announced that it was coming out and I was ecstatic!!!

Then today I was crushed. It sounds like Borderlands3 will be an epic store exclusive and that is going to kill it for me. I have had numerous problems with epic and their lousy customer service and I will NEVER buy another game from them…EVER. I know a few others with similar issues.

I understand they give a higher share of the profits to the gaming companies, but at the cost of customer satisfaction. Yes, Steam takes a higher share of the profits, but they also pass that on to the consumer by giving us a platform that is MILLIONS of times better then epic, we’re talking not even remotely close. People will obviously buy the game on Epic, but it will be at a cost of fewer happy players who are doomed to have issues using multiplayer. Steam is SO much more reliable and the cloud saves is so much better it is ridiculous.

Metro Exodus did something similar and the company had an interview a month after doing the Epic store exclusive (not counting steam preorders) and said they would never do it again as they had a stupid amount of complaints from customers being forced to use a platform they didn’t want to use.

I know this won’t change anything and I doubt they will even read this, but today just sucks going from the ultimate high a few days ago to this feeling now.

Now I might be overreacting and maybe this won’t happen, but I have a feeling it will.

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#50

What take 2 fails to realize is that we, as gamers, do not care about how much profit they make, beyond breaking even enough to make the next game, nor do we care about appeasing stockholders. Give us what we ask for, or get out of the consumer business.

There’s not a chance in hell I would be buying BL3 on epic, what with their rampant spying and anticonsumerism.

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#51

Agreed. I had a bit of a sketchy feeling about it since I heard it was starting to host exclusives, and a couple of posts confirmed something very dodgy is up:


^ This one comes with an offensive language warning. Seriously though, I don’t trust Epic as far as I could spit them.

Edit: better photo of the last one here because the repost compressed the original:

Summary

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/473/626/7ab.jpg

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Borderlands is a lifestyle
#52

Everyone else may do as they desire. I, however, will not purchase BL3 if (and as long as it remains) an Epic Store exclusive. I completely understand that money talks, and that percentage is enticing. Having said that, The Epic Store is not prime time ready. Of all the E-stores for games out there I’d put it in the bottom of the list, perhaps not dead last, but certainly way down there.

Now move along, there’s nothing more to see here.

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#53

Just so we’re clear, I put them under EA. And I think I’ve made my thoughts about EA VERY clear.

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#54

The only way that I, at this stage, will activate an Epic* Store exclusive game in their launcher is if I buy an an actual physical copy of a game for cash which is EGS activated.

EGS has at this loads of horrible issues consumer wise and in general I do not give out payment information over the net because in my opinion security sucks hard completely separate from any issue EGS (or any other launcher) has.

  • With the amount of features currently on offer and consumer friendlyness it should be called Inferior Game Store…
#55

It’s still unlikely to be ESE because 2K has not released a game under their store, only a subsidiary called Private Division, who is focused on different sorts of RPGs and game experiences in general. As well, this game has always had online services, which Epic has, but not in the same way Valve does. This game would probably not run on new online services that may be glitchy for 18% profit and adamant boycotting by Borderlands fans.

#56

New theory. Now hear me out: Gearbox/2k are pulling an Ubisoft.

Releasing on Steam AND Epic. They get Epic’s bribe money, but we all buy on Steam because Epic is literal shet. It’s a win win all around.

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#57

Huh? If they take the money, they are barred from releasing it on steam.

#58

not if they don’t accept exclusivity. The division 2 is on both the epic game store and Uplay.

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#59

I wish they would realize that the extra 12-15% Steam is taking is more our benefit than for theirs.

Epic is not even in the same realm as Steam. Ignoring the privacy issues people have with Epic, Steam has better customer support, multiplay ability, forums, more stable, cloud saves, etc. I mean holy crap you can go on and on about the differences between Steam and Epic.

The problem is, it is all about their bottom line and they don’t take the customer base into consideration for things like this.

And for those who don’t think it is finalized yet, it was briefly listed as an Epic store exclusive before being taken down. I don’t see them changing it now.

Borderlands 3 will have to wait for me until they release on Steam, and then I won’t buy until it is on sale.

If they would release on Steam right now for 99.99 with bonus content I would have already purchased it and waited like a little kid on Christmas.

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#60

Question for you since I play on console and really don’t understand the deal between Steam and Epic. I understand people who play on PC primarily get their content via Steam and then launch from there. But what if you only want to purchase and play the game, not stream it, not record it, etc. Could you still simply buy and play the game from the Epic launcher? If so, why is everybody so against it? I can understand if Epic holds part of the player base hostage and doesn’t release a game on Steam for x number of months or years later, (Metro), but why otherwise?

One other thing. I think I heard that if a game releases as an exclusive on Epic it can’t be released on Steam until Epic approves it. And is it also true that if a game launches on Epic and Epic doesn’t approve it for Steam release, it’ll never release on Steam. Just seems so dumb to me and another reason why I prefer consoles.

#61

The issue is that Epic has already been caught sifting through peoples data so a lot of people are turned off by that and won’t use them.

My issue is that I prefer MP and steam is a million times better and more stable then Epic which I don’t know if they even have a MP platform setup for this.

Epic doesn’t have a cloud save system which is another issue I have as I like to switch between computers and cloud saves means I can use the same character from either computer.

Epic has lousy customer service if you have issues (see above) while Steam has always quickly and efficiently taken care of me.

As for the exclusive, it depends on the deal with the publisher. Metro I think had a 1 year deal before Steam would get it. Randy Pitchford has stated in the last few days that he likes exclusive deals and that he doesn’t mind a 6 month waiting period which kind of tells me Epic will get an exclusive for 6 months before it goes to steam.

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#62

Well, that’s because Ubisoft games use their own matchmaking servers, and you need to launch Uplay anyway.
So I don’t see any reason to buy Ubi games on epic store, or steam for that matter.

It could also be epic paying not for exclusivity, but for exclusion of steam.
So, Shift store when? Any other store really. Epic have already shown that they don’t care about customers. Why should we care about them?

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