So everyone is just cool with them announcing another skill tree you have to pay for right?

DLC 4 being kinda lack luster, they are going to have to knock it out of the park with the next content drops for me. DLC 4 was just pretty incoherent and disconnected from everything else in the game, and really just didn’t make any sense. Someone told me it wasn’t canon and I believed it.
Content wise with it, there’s what, 5 new guns? None are that great I’m pretty sure.
So now we have to wait how long for this new content?

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Of course games should be much more money, I feel sorry so for these Ceo’s and shareholders bonuses only being a few measly millions. It must be very difficult for them in these trying times, let’s all get together as caring gamers and offer them $240 a game and feel like we are contributing to their cause, maybe these trickle down economics will start working and they could pay their employee’s enough to live on if we were just give them much much more.

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I have zero problem paying for them. Since they have said, though that they will be a part of a new game “mode” dlc, it’ll just depend what that mode is. If it’s something like a battle royale, which I won’t play, I’ll pass unless they sell them separate. If it’s something I’ll play, then yeah, no problem. I was they same way with 2, I had no interest in Gaige or Kreig, so I didn’t buy them until much later when my kids wanted to try them out. It’s all down to choice, if you want them, buy them, if not, don’t.

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hell no im not gonna pay already have a season pass why do i need another one?

New game mode is going to be… Battleborn Royale :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: :joy: :rofl:

I think I am done with BL3 for now. No real interest in paying for more content at this point. At some point, I will probably buy BL3 on the PC when it is on a deep discount. Something like the Handsome collection.

Back to BL2 and other games.

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This is pretty much me except I’ll wait for a GOTY/Definitive Edition, when all of the current and future DLC will be included and- hopefully- all issues have been fixed or mitigated to be less irritating (i.e. Mayhem modifiers).

Such a little thing and probably the one that I miss the most from BL2.

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Fl4k is already insanely powerful. His only weakness is survivability. So it doesn’t surprise me to see a new skill tree designed almost entirely around Suvivability.

As it stands now, I can beat Killavolt at Level 65 on Mayhem 10 in less than 30 seconds without ever firing a single shot with Fl4k. How much more powerful does he need to be?

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Agreed Fl4k is strong. We just need good ol’ pet to be.

I’m not saying he should get an additional super powerful tree, just that if the other new skill trees are comparable to it, we won’t need to worry about it being an overpowered p2w addition to the game.

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That’s a narrow viewpoint and incorrect in a historical sense.

Sure, looking at dollars and nothing else it looks like we’re paying an all time low for the game. However, when I bought that $70 game in the 1980s, I was provided a box, and a users manual, and a physical cartridge that included a small circuit board and plastic case. I also had the option of reselling all of the above once I was done with it.

Today you’re paying $70 for the digital rights to play a game that you don’t actually own. You get nothing. Not even a paper receipt of the transaction unless you print it out on your own printer, ink, and paper. And you cannot resell it when you’re done playing. (And believe me, if I could right now, this game would be sold)

So comparing price is Apples to Oranges. My $70 physical game in the 1980s was a much better value than the $70 digital rental you get today.

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Rental isn’t really fair since they never take your license away.

Just a reminder that Borderlands 3 sold 8m copies by the end of 2019.

8m×50=400,000,000.

I obviously lowballed the price a ton, not even accounting for sales above the basic version, and sales of the season pass or any of the 4 DLCs since then. Also there was no bug testing. Also there were less variety of voice acting as compared to The Presequel.

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I take it you have verifiable evidence to prove these statements?

I coukd pull up the in game credits and the basic assumption is that most anyone who is credited for this game was paid during the development period.

If you feel like there was no bug testing because it’s completely possible for a game to have absolutely zero bug testing theres still the post launch play testing.

Every patch that is released has someone work on it that has to be paid.

So you’re saying the game made 400,000,000 on the low end.

Did you calculate for the cost of advertising, insurance, workers comp insurance, the yearly salary for every gearbox employee, maintenence and upkeep for the facility that they work out of?

Theres a massive list of miscellaneous cost that go into any business. Much of which could bleed into thr cost of actual development which likely is even more costly if no equal to the misc cost.

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My issue isn’t paying actually. Definitely not super happy about it but meh…

What has me far more irked is what they chose to be FL4K’s new pet. Why couldn’t it have been a Stalker, Drifter, Thresher, or Scythid?

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Yes, me and the hundreds of thousands of others who had horrible trouble playing the game due to bugs that would be apparent during testing. Zero testing is an exaggeration, undertesting is more like it. The second statement, the fact NPCs had differing dialogue depending on the Vault hunter being played. BL3 probably has more voice acting but less variety.

Rest is a fair point, but the combined cost is probably not even near half of the profit if the game. I may be wrong.

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Or even one of the maliwan dogs if they still wanted a robot pet.

I’ve got no problem with GBX producing additional paid content. Sure they could start working on BL4 or Battle Born 2 or something.

As for whether or not I’ll buy it, not sure. The game is fun, but also a slog to get through. It doesn’t keep me coming back like BL2 did. Probably depends on the nature of the new game mode. More information needed.

I mean, I’m not over the moon with where the game is now (it’s gotten better since Mayhem 2.0 for whatever it’s worth) but I also don’t care one way or the other whether they decide to charge for certain features or put micro transactions in. I haven’t bought any of the DLC because the game doesn’t interest me enough to do so yet (still hoping it will eventually) so if they charge for skill trees or skins I probably still wouldn’t buy them unless they were really good.

However, someone else may find it to be worthwhile and be willing to pay. I have no qualms with that. If I don’t like it I won’t buy it, but I know I’m not going to convince anyone else not to (nor do I think I should, having a stranger on the internet try to tell me how to spend my money would piss me off) and I sure as heck won’t convince GB not to charge for something they spent months developing, so eh. At least it’ll be available for people who do want it.

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