So... hmm, is Evolve gonna be F2P soon? (Battleborn discussion)

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#49

Just finished skimming the other posts; am I the only one who’s wary about Battleborn going f2p? The initial burst in players is appealing, but it ignores what might change in the long run, if those players are retained, or potentially what made the player base dwindle in the first place, etc.

I’m not saying that it shouldn’t be an option; maybe I’m being an obstinate jerkwad about it and this is absolutely what the game needs. I’m just saying that if GB is interested in the option it should wait and see how it pans out for Evolve over more than the course of a few days. Our devs have done good work now fixing and improving the game; over the course of a single patch I went from having unplayable fps on some maps to being able to actually enjoy them.

I think they have a little flex room to stew on the decision.

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#50

Frankly I think f2p will be the biggest stab in the back that these devs could do. I spent $70 on this game, and while I have enjoyed it very much thus far I would feel utterly betrayed by a f2p battleborn. It is the same issue that I have with destiny. From day one I supported the game. Buying it at full price and buying each DLC until the taken king. When the taken king was announced Bungie had a GREAT idea. The devs got together and decided to release an “everything” package. At that point I had spent somewhere near $100 on the game, and enjoyed it. But this “everything” package was offered at $45. This kind of abhorrent pandering and desperate actions would show only disrespect for those who have supported the game thus far and as such would be the worst decision that the devs could make.

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#51

It was too expensive. That’s the only reason it really died out. Not only did you pay a premium for the game (full reatail at 60 bucks) but then you needed to pay way too much. It was ahead of it’s time (basically an online only team based pvp game) and it priced itself out of contention.

Everyone I know that played it (actively played it) pretty much loved the game.

#52

As opposed to going free to play, why not Release a story demo (the starter stuff) and a limited character pvp demo.

Everything I have seen and been told by friends points at BattleBorn being more fun to play, long term, than Overwatch. But I won’t commit money to it unless the community grows.

#53

Evolve’s experiment as a F2P title on PC is only in its third day. If its player base is holding strong many months from now, like into next year, then perhaps the game will succeed under a F2P model and the console versions of the game will follow. If it works well for Evolve, then congratulations will be in order and the community has my best wishes for success.

I know Battleborn’s PC community is struggling right now but from my experience on PS4 and reading other players’ experience on XB1, the console versions of the game appear to be doing very well. The game has been out for little more than two months so if there was ever a time that is way too early to express community interest in Battleborn becoming F2P, it started on July 7th.

F2P is, and should always be, the nuclear option - the most drastic or extreme response to a problem. Battleborn is not even close to this threshold. So what does that mean for us? How can we help Battleborn grow and thrive? I think it’s quite simple actually. We stop talking about F2P and start talking about constructive ways we think Gearbox can improve Battleborn as it currently exists as a full-fledged, AAA retail game.

Battleborn is an amazing game so let’s all do our part to help it succeed. Encourage your friends to buy it (especially if you play on console), play with them often, hunt legendaries (especially next weekend!), destroy sentries, sacrifice minions, and hold ALL the points. Be positive, be constructive, and let’s start moving away from the F2P conversation because I don’t think it’s at all helpful to Gearbox and 2K, especially right now.

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#54

So much misinformation here. The dlc in question here was not as catastrophic as this thread makes it sound.

The release day dlc was only cosmetic stuff that wasn’t necessary to purchase. Most games launch with a store full of crap that isn’t necessary.

The issue was a review was written and the sheep ran with it.

You don’t need a party of 5 people to play the game and enjoy it. There’s been so many changes that it isn’t necessary.

A big reason the game failed was because it demanded teamwork and you have a generation of CoD kids who want to sit and camp, no scope, or lone wolf run and gun. When people realized that they actually had to stay together, they don’t like that.

No, it’s not an easy game to pick up and play. It actually takes some skill to play. People didn’t want to learn the ins and outs. The game doesn’t hold your hand and modern gamers don’t like that either.

But now it’s become a dumbed down version so that little Timmy can actually pick up and access it.

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#55

Why would you feel stabbed in the back? You bought it, played it, enjoyed it. If your playerbase is dying and you may not be able to play ever again, then isn’t that option viable so that you can keep enjoying it? Otherwise the money you spent will be for a paper weight.

#56

But consoles has done far better with both of these games. Even as we speak I have no problem finding games on evolve or battleborn.
Not repeating played, all different players.

#57

it could be my ELO or my location or both but i am struggling to find capture/meltdown matches at times on ps4 Not ALL the Time for melt down but for capture most of the time i understand that tho. (is too bad my favorite.)

#58

well F2P evolve has hit over 50k players within the last few days

bborn is under 1k

the new evolve f2p is pretty awesome. added a MUCH better progression system and 18 pages of patch notes

bborn is where evolve used to be, that is not a good place

#59

it will be free to play soon enough. sucks for the people that spent 80 bucks on it i guess.

hope they can fix lag issues and character issues, until then its pretty much unplayable.

#60

doesn´t suck at all because i supported a company who deserves it!.. simple as that…
even i own DDE, season pass and severall skins+taunts with platinum.

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#61

That’s debatable but I’m glad you feel that way.

#62

I disagree, I find it very disturbing when a company panders for players. And I have no difficulty finding players and people to team with. The player base is fine here on Xb1. If the game dies let it die, hopefully before it goes down they will give us an offline mode (assuming it is even going down). F2P is pandering, the game is a good game and it is worth the money people spend on it. F2P would be saying “f*ck you people who spent money on our game. You should’ve waited to get the game after it became F2P.”

EDIT: That being said there has not been any terrible moves done from the devs here at gearbox imo.

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#63

Let it die? Then your massive $70 dollars goes down the drain as well. Seems legit.

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#64

Rather have it die out then become f2p, it would mean a decision between having a backbone and not having a backbone.

#65

Evolve goes from under 500 players playing at peak time to over 40k players playing at off peak time… I’m pretty sure going F2P is a win for Evolve… It will take a few months to see the retention of those 40k players but at the moment it looks like a win for the people who bought the game and weren’t able to play it…

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#66

While I do believe video games are a form of art but the bottom line it’s a business. It needs to make money to survive. Trust me I’m just as bitter as just about anyone seeing my purchase depreciate at such a rate but without players the depression drops this game to 0. Ya gotta do what you need to do to survive. I would be happy if they toss the original players some exclusives and I’ll call it even.

I think we may be taking this a bit too seriously. It’s a video game not a (insert important moral decision here). Yes, they need to tread the line between bringing in new player and maintaining their existing player base but they DO NEED to expand. That’s just a fact. Without new players this game will continue to spiral down the drain.

Just give OG (original gamers) some love when they go f2p

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#67

Taking Evolve as an example, they let them keep everything they had bought and unlocked before the transfer, and gave them tones of MT currency to boot.

Now, as to WHEN they’ll do it (if at all) is something we can’t honestly pin down. If I had to guess, I’d say it’ll probably be after they’ve done all the mission DLC and Season Pass related stuff, so we probably won’t see it happen till sometime beginning of next year. Who knows, maybe they’ll do it sooner? We’ll just have to hear from the devs, though I wish they would give us some kind of indication of if they’re at least thinking about it or not.

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#68

With evolve they gave them founder status. Which means everything you own is unlocked already and everything coming out in the future is unlocked for you already.

It’s not a bad thing when it comes down to being able to play a game you love or having it sit in on your shelf as a paper weight.

It’s like a Game of the year edition of a game. People cry because they spent money on dlc that’s now included. When the truth is, you can wait for that edition to come out and play the game a year or two later than everyone else.