#284

After a few days of reflection on this level cap increase I have the following thoughts on the subject.

I play and trade extensively. I have played all characters. I have played many builds. I play sometimes like group A and sometimes like group B. There’s already both groups and both are actually IMO welcome in BL3 despite what the marketing clones spin.

For anything other than Takedown challenges or M4 scaled to 4 group play then I’d agree that frequent level cap changes are fine. But there are issues. Lets say you are playing with friends in MT scaled to 4. Maybe they play Amara or Zane and they can effortlessly solo True MT…

You want to join them with a different character or a different build. Maybe just for variety…Lets say you bring in your Gamma FL4K build. If you don’t have perfect rolls you won’t be viable playing with your friends (who literally run true MT 24/7 - especially if they die and you are left to solo the game). They might have to carry you and that is no fun for anyone.

So then imagine a situation where 6 weeks ago you were ready to roll with a build that took you ages to farm and trade. Then there is a level change. You grind and restock. And then 6 weeks later that process has to start again - without actually having anytime to test the build in co op. Anyone not being pissed by this must be on some good meds…

This process clearly rewards Meta builds over build diversity in co op… As Zane and Amara will still be viable. But you have to fight tooth and nail just to get back to almost being able to run your non-meta with friends. And this is the reason why so many run Meta in co-op.

Like I have said before it would be nice if these level changes were less frequent, or dedicated drops were easier to farm, or there was better balancing accross skill trees and characters. One can dream…

Fortunately I have enough characters and builds to play that I can continue to get enjoyment from the game.

And yes some extra skill points might help my Gamma Fl4K build. But I hope you can understand why perfect rolls might matter for some beyond just min/maxing

To summarise…Perfect rolls matter for obscure none meta builds, because the game seems to be exclusively balanced around Amara and Zane’s current metas.

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#285

This is why some folks wait at least until the first Game of the Year edition rolls out, since it will most likely have all level cap increases included…

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#286

It’d be a nice surprise if the new cap came a few hours earlier before the dlc.

#287

It only took BL2 what 7 years?

And who on this forum is waiting for GoY edition?

By then new gen titles will be more interesting IMO.

#288

Just run Slaughtershaft, MT or Scraptrap first…

#289

I probably will, but I’d like to get that out of the way as early as possible.

#290

If someone spends that much time on it when we’re not even to the end of the initially expected content, meaning that the chances of level cap increases and other endgame changers are moderate to high, then getting mad about it is like the shock and outrage of a cat who catches and bites its own tail.

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#291

I can tell you that based on all my friends, know one will be restocking there banks fully. It’s entirely to time consuming. So folks will pick a few, choice pieces of gear and be done until we get to max levelcap. Sadly, barring new content, many of my friends will play much less which is not the intent at GB. Already many have moved on to other games rendering BL3 as a non exclusive go to. Seems to me these moves were not very well thought out. Oh well, at least we get some new content for now I guess.

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#292

Fortunately I am not mad, but a level cap after 6 weeks did enrage me for like a day - as it is a little bit too soon for my liking. For all the reasons I listed above - which were my main discussion points.

#293

Yeah the PS4 community is already really shrinking and non-meta kit is getting even harder to farm and trade. There will be a lot of activity for a couple weeks and I’d expect after the MT event numbers will dwindle even more - because people will hold back until the next DLC because they will expect another incremental level cap in 6 weeks… Which is probably great for GB’s DLC numbers but somewhat frustrating for some players…

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#294

I agree with you for the most part. Main issue I see is with gear that is event-tied like the Wedding Invitation - it’s not been out that long and now it won’t be much good for longer. They could probably fix that by making it part of the loot pool after a while. I hope they do

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#295

Dedicated loot pools are S**T. I have farmed Judge Hightower for hours on end just to get my shock F2M Carrier in the Slaughter Shaft. Nothing but slide/airborne annoints from Judge. I wish you could narrow down rolls on annointments, even with eridium for 30 minutes.

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#296

Because it breaches the FORUM RULES, and if you have any comment to make about moderator actions, pm is the way to go, as described in those there rules.

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#297

I’d have to check but I don’t think it took 7 years for the first GotY edition to come out- now if you’re talking max level then yes, 7 years- and I did say first GotY edition.

#298

They should just bring back the Grinder from TPS. That way extra gear you don’t need can still be used instead of just sold off for cash you don’t need and it will give you another way to get legendaries you may be after. Eridium can be used to guarantee an annoinment.

Most looters have ways to re-roll stats these days, in one form or another.

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#299

Great response. I agree wholeheartedly with what you wrote here.

There’s a lot of sourgraping, envy, wishlists due to other characters having unfair advantage over other VHs. If the playing field is equal, there would probably less of these.

#300

I’ve never quite understood why the Grinder wasn’t continued from TPS, although sometimes it seems like they don’t want to acknowledge that TPS ever existed…

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#301

In the latest Borderlands show, they said that could be an option, but special event gear will likely only reappear when that same timed event hits next year. I’m hoping the Skullmasher is a viable replacement for the Wedding Invitation.

#302

I agree, and it’s a sorely lacking feature in Borderlands. The Anointments made the lack of this feature more apparent.

The one thing I’ll say though, I wouldn’t want the Grinder to be as it was in TPS. I don’t think that one was well done. They need a more straight forward version of it, where you can mash up something like 5-10 anointed weapons and to spit out one of the weapons you put in with whatever Anointments you choose. That way, you don’t spend a ton of time grinding up weapons and dealing with high RNG the way you did in TPS.

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#303

I’m sorry I missed that detail, since I was responding to the last part of your sentence…

No worries anyway…

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