[SOLVED] "Unknown Type" RODOH error

Homeworld Remastered Collection Homeworld Mods and Modding
#1

Hi all,

Been trying to find a way to fix old HODs en masse that give this result in (old) RODOH:

G:\Games\Homeworld 2\Modding Tools\HODOR>"D:\Game Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Homeworld\GBXTools\HODOR\RODOH.exe" -script="G:\Games\Homeworld 2\Modding Tools\HODOR\single_extract.hodor"
-- Scan Path: G:\Games\Homeworld 2\Modding Tools\HODOR\HOD
Converting G:\Games\Homeworld 2\Modding Tools\HODOR\HOD\fed_ENT_shuttlepod.hod
DAE not saved to G:\Games\Homeworld 2\Modding Tools\HODOR\DAE\fed_ENT_shuttlepod.DAE
 - Unknown type:
 - Unknown version: 00000000
Scan Complete!
Press any key to continue . . .

My bug hunting methodology so far has been to delete everything in the old HOD, item by item. I ended up with a completely empty HOD and it was still giving that same message. I then exported the OBJs, imported them into MAX, exported them and then replaced the meshes in the HOD. That also didn’t work.

I tried looking for a type or version number in the old HOD in Notepad ++, comparing it between ones which worked and ones which didn’t, but the guts of a HOD aren’t very human readable -_-

Has anyone gotten past this yet? We have 172 HOD files out of 346 which didn’t convert through and we are hoping to do a release sometime this year. If I can’t fix the old HODs to work with RODOH that’s not going to happen :frowning:

#2

I get the feeling it’s CFHodEd that’s the issue, or rather, the latest version of it. I tested a few old models I made, and they didn’t work (got the Unknown version error). I happen to have an older version of CFHodEd (v 3.2.0, back when it was CFHodEdTangent), so I opened the HODs in that and just saved them, and as if by magic, the hods worked, and RODOH spat out 2 DAEs.

I noticed that one of the HODs you were having a problem with was the ENT shuttlepod, so I cheekily extracted it, resaved it in CFHodED 3.2.0, and, well…
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So that leads me to believe that CFHodEd 4.0.2.4 doesn’t write certain chunks in the HOD correctly. Not sure what it does differently, but I know that version 3.2.0 saves versions that HODOR does like. Very strange.

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#3

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So… let me run the numbers… it would take 3 or 4 hours for me to manually recreate a HOD in MAX without a starting point, there are 172 HODs to do… that’s 680 to 700 hours? You have literally saved me 700 hours of work :astonished:

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#4

Hehe. Glad I could help. It does save a helluvalot of time, and it’ll be helpful for other devs too!

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#5

That’s probably because you might want the 4.0.2.4 version, the most up-to-date pre-remastered CFHodEd.

#6

Yeah for release in one week !

What ? Why no ? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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#7

As it turns out, I was wrong on the CFHodEd version number. I checked the version of it and it is 4.0.2.4, an easy enough mistake to make. But the core point still stands. :slight_smile:

#8

I actually had 4.0.2.3, I’ve grabbed 4.0.2.4 now.

There are just 10 HODs left to convert at the moment, on a preliminary count. They had an overflow when saving in CFHodEd Tangent.

Still, it’s a fantastic achievement @CMDBob :wink:

//EDIT

Just to clarify, both version 4.0.2.3 and 4.0.2.4 have the same issue. I think the reason CFHodEd tangent won’t open those particular files is the mesh sizes. I’m thinking to auto-optimise the hell out of them, then bring the proper mesh into Max and then later swap out all the lattice work on them with matt_scissor flat panels :wink: