[Spoilers] Troy calypso gender

He’s a man, his father says so, and there is never even one mention of any other possibility. Also he had sex with Aurelia, known via eco log, so he’s straight, and Aurelia is a woman. Facts are facts no need to insert your politics into everything. I, for one, thought their fling wasnt needed, but her brother and Jakobs relationship added much to the story.

Since he was conjoined with Tyreen and based on his missing arm I would think that he was attached to a portion of her back on the left side. I would also guess that Tyreen inherited her power from the Siren Queen Dido. When they where born Typhon cut Troy off majorty of the scaring was likely on Troy with some possibly on Tyreens back.Troys powers where likely spread to him from them being conjoined. Once Troy was split away his incomplete Phaseleech may have started consuming his life force. I once he leeched all of Maya’s life force and absorbed here powers he likely became “complete”. This text will be blurred Regardless Troy identifies as a male similar to how FL4K identifies as a collective consciousness.

yeah that part kinda got me thinking aswell. Maybe leda is Nyriad all though possibly quite unlikely, but you never know. Maybe she didn’t tell typhon everything? or perhaps it could’ve been steele? i’ve only had a very limited playtime on BL1 but steele seems fairly unknown and she knew quite a lot about the destroyer etc. now that we know siren powers can transfer. but i do believe typhon said that the twins had siren powers before leda died? also do we know how she died? or when?

As ForgedPatriarch mentioned above Leda can’t be Nyriad since Nyriad had been locked in the Nekrotafeyo vault. I am still curious about Leda, but I guess she could just be a throwaway character. Meh. I suppose that makes “Runs in the family.” a throwaway line too. Meh.

If you ever fight the Destroyer in BL1 you’ll see that Steele didn’t really know what she was getting into. If Steele wasn’t going to be the original playable siren I don’t know if she’d even have siren tattoos today. She maybe uses her abilities once and it’s to move the vault key two feet. You fight her in the fourth dlc and it’s just like fighting an Atlas assassin, no siren powers at all.

So we have no clue what Steele’s siren powers could be except they couldn’t be Walk, Lock, Shift, or Leech(since the twins had already been born by 12 years ago). Since powers can be transferred to people already alive, Steele could’ve had Trance. We don’t know when Amara got her abilities so I suppose that’s an option.

Harvest, just because Troy was involved with Aurelia doesn’t make him not trans. Trans people can be gay/straight/bisexual/whatever just like anyone else.

Granted I don’t actually think Troy is trans. I think Gearbox just didn’t think too hard when they designed his character.

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Its a “wouldn’t it be cool if…?” type of writing rather than the “how do conjoined twins work?” type of writing.

She obviously was playing with his manhood, there’s no hint whatsoever in the game about him being trans, and his father says he had a boy and a girl, straight from his parents words, a BOY and a GIRL. Not “I had a Ladyboy and a girl”

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I have to agree with that.

It to me is a bit unfriendly lore wise. But I suppose it makes the story better.

However many of us that have played BL games for some years probably find it hard to accept a male siren in any form or under any condition.

Like he would advertise that he gave his daughter a sex change while she was an infant.

Wow… this thread is still going…

I though everyone in BL was gender neutral

No, they are all bisexual or gay. No straight white cave man makes aloud. At least according to some folks here. Mordecai doesn’t count cuz he’s a lighter shade of brown and neither does brick because he doesn’t talk like a well educated white guy.
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It isn’t possible for identical twins to be different genders. Unless you’re using this newage liberal definition of gender and not gender as in sex.

Because reasons.

It’s pretty clear they are not identical. I mean look at them. Hell, they don’t even look related.

Or you know here’s a idea.

A egg which got the siren power which can only be fertilized with a X sperm did that duplication thing of which I can’t remember what it’s called. Causing the second egg to gain unnatural (word unnatural is important here) siren power which then is capable of being fertilized by a Y sperm. And since troy can leech from sirens and tyreen from anyone they leeched off each other becoming conjoined.

Look at when tyreen leeches the destroyer something that can leeche in its own way of taking a host and using them. They became one conjoined organism.

There you go a vary plausible explanation that fits into the story and even has some evidence behind it that says it could work. None of this trans stuff.

If we go by real life biology, the only way it would be possible would be if Tyreen has an extremely rare condition called Turner Syndrome- ie, when the zygotes split, she lost the Y chromosome, leaving her with only one X chromosome and a female. It’s usually characterized by short stature.

More likely explanation, though, is “SPACE MAGIC”!

I always took it as, they were normal, different gendered twins. When the siren powers manifested on Tyreen when she was still in the womb, they fused her with Troy. We already know her powers let her fuse with things.

I mean he is a pretty edgy guy. He could have just dyed his hair black? And his face is messed up - Typhon said he was sick all the time. Constant sickness, medication and having to rely on his sisters powers could have altered him. You can be born identical but choices as you grow older can make you look different. His arm was entirely mechanical - who knows how much of him had been replaced by machine due to sickness or if he was born underdeveloped.

I never thought too deeply into it. I thought it was an interesting twist on the sirenology.

…I’m making that a word now because siren mythology sounds silly.

It’s mentioned in some of the banter very early on when you first encounter them too. Tyreen calls him a parasite and points out that Troy had to be literally cut from her, which implies some level of conjoined twins. The fact that this makes a M-F twin pair much more unlikely I attribute to the foibles of the writers, who probably don’t have degrees in human biology.

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