Seriously, her death was BEYOND pointless, unnecessary and it didnât make a lick of sense. Yes i get it, youâre supposed to feel some type of attachment for the characters and hate the twins even more, which i only found annoying (and their deaths were pretty tame compare to the atrocities they did, they just fell over asleep lolâŚ)
Mayaâs death felt kind of weird to me because it seemed to mirror Lilithâs scene where her powers were stolen by the twins almost exactly, and yet this time sheâs fully disintegrated while Lilith wasnât becauseâŚ? It felt a little unfair that she died while Lilithâs life is spared like five times over in the course of the game for plot armor reasons alone. In the end, I think it worked, but again, Tyreen and Troy are still more annoying than menacing and this didnât really change that.
Paul Tassi
Getting her powers removed is fine, having them transfer to Ava, fine i guess, though no one likes herâŚbut bring her back in one shape or another, two missions in and she diesâŚreally? Terrible! It honestly soured my entire rest of my gameâŚi didnât have that in any of the other Borderlands gamesâŚthink that speaks for itself in quality writing, donât you think?
While I agree that Mayaâs death was far too soon/quick, and that they shouldâve at least given her more screen time, there was one key difference between what happened with Lilith and what happened with Maya. Lilith got her powers succed away by Tyreen, who is the âtrueâ Siren, while Maya got hers succed by Troy, who is just a Siren parasite. He likely has much less control over his parasitic nature, and can only do that with Sirens, while his sister has some form of resistances to his succ power, due to being connected at birth and them effectively sharing in the Siren abilities, even if only slightly.
Now as for the New U stations, those are only there for gameplay purposes, and donât actually exist in the lore, otherwise youâd literally never have been able to kill off Handsome Jack, considering how heâs the CEO of Hyperion, and all the New U stations on Helios/Pandora are ran by Hyperion, so yeah.
Iâm not trying to defend the course the gameâs story took, as I have my own problems with it, and do agree with you in some respects, but it does make sense, to me at least.
yeah gameplay purposes guess New-U does make sense unless everyone would just come back, ahh wellâŚstill a piss off moment, even if Troy can melt people and that was his way of absorbingâŚ
Iâm actually just flummoxed about what the HELL we were doing as player characters the whole time? Did we just watch all that go down and not intervene? Does travelling through the little portal take 10 minutes? THAT to me is the writing that removes any sort of agency and just confuses the hell out of me, tearing me away from what was an emotional moment.
Like, literally all they had to do was have Tyreen phaselock me at the beginning of that scene and I wouldâve been fine.
About that⌠In a story where a major character (and a beloved one) dies itâs suposed to have an effect. For example : In BL2 we allready knew that at the end weâll blow Handsome Jackâs head off. But it was after his sadistic murder of Bloodwing and execution of Roland that made us hate him and determined us to stop him. Also we had time to grow on Roland (sorry Bloodwing), in a way we gotten to know him (his akward interactions with Lilith, the reunion with BrickâŚ).
Also notice the atmosphere betwen the games when the deathâs happened. In BL2 the main story missions became more melancholic and the amount of silly jokes droped noticably. Hell, Jack was such a threat that Mordecai still fellât Rolandâs death should be told the people who know him. You can hear the sadnes from those who knew him (exept Tannis, but sheâs more sociopathic robot than human). People cared.
Compare this to BL3, everyone who knew her was on the bridge and what did we get?
Ellie reminiscing good old days with her, Moxxi braking into tearâs, Lilith bursting with rage? No.
We get a half-assed âitâs war people dieâ speech from Tannis!? TANNIS!? Thatâs like Norman Bates telling you âpeople die naked in showers, covered with stab woundâs every dayâ when a stabed body is found in the shower!
It lackâs emotional impact. A story has to elicit one, without it the writer wasnt doing his job.
I agree maya shouldnât have died I thought she and krieg were gonna have some sort of valentine dlc after finding his echoes only for her to die shortly after I found them. So pointless and wasted potential. Didnât seem like they put any thought into it. I hope they give a way for us to bring her back in a dlc using siren powers or something idk
Yeah but sheâs doesnât have to come back with siren powers she could just be ânormalâ like Lilith was idk just sucks especially since I wanted to see her and krieg together
I am going give a vague suggestion about a the idea: is separate map with a vault with Tina and Ava task in finding a vault and the DLC ends with the revival of maya without her powers and Roland but the power of vault collapsing and you have to escape.
The reason I chose the two is I chose the two is their strong connection to dead character Roland and Maya
Iâd really like a dlc with krieg trying to bring her back. Tannis figuring out how and Ava helping. like the sirens and past sirens are all connected but lillith stays with Roland idk Iâm grasping at straws here
Its really weird to play through as the Siren and have all this siren nonsense going on and not once is it a big deal⌠Amara is right there! Tyreen just ignores her. Its silly.
I think the direction they took with Sirens was completely wrong. We over looked it in 2 because the story is so well written, but Gearbox really wrote themselves into a narrative corner. Its a shame.
I honestly think that Lilith Shouldâve died instead of Maya, and Maya shouldâve lead the plot of Borderlands 3 instead. We didnât get enough of Maya and Ava, and to me it made Avaâs reactions towards Lilith feel cheap - and even the ending when Ava goes sicko mode with her new siren powers that she never trained with before.
Remember, the vaults and the tech they contain are pretty much the ultimate deus ex machina for the series. For all we know there could be a vault out there with a bonafide time machine. Imagine if it only has one use, though. Do you save Maya? Do you save Roland? Do you kill Handsome Jack as a baby? Plus all the usual time traveling tropes could get pretty funny with the BL writing style.
âHyperion! We can always bring you back, no questions! Unless you died in a cutscene.â
And as for the difference in Mayaâs death and Lilith losing her powers, Troy clearly stops Tyreen before sheâs finished because he needs a recharge, then Troy insists that Tyreen leave Lilith to the bandits that were showing up. In other words Troy interrupted Tyreen before she could turn Lilith to dust like Maya.
Just saying. I hated Mayaâs death too. I felt it was poor writing but it wasnât inconsistent like you think, and I doubt theyâll bring her back.
