Stop Nerfing characters

Battleborn Battleborn General Discussion
#139

Ernest is a defender pusher complex, kleese is territorial shielder complex, reyna is a rescuer shielder advance.

The deal is: kleese heals 19 per tick, is stupid to try to use any heal power with him like i used to do.

I usually set loadout to improve the power of my character instead of reduce their weakness.

Right now kleese deals a stupid amount of dmg! I use simbiotic guantlet+ vampiric vestment+ oath of sustain. See? I dont play him like a shielder territorial, i dont even need rifts to survive anymore, i literaly can move around like a freaking pikachu or a turret.

Before his high hp and crappy heals i always stayed back bringing support and pushing my territory and keep my team strong and healthy, now i dont care if they need a heal or a shield they can find my rifts by themselves

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#140

I like both characters and i can tell you this, if i see atikus first i curse him and w8 for him to jump onto me to jump and use volley in his huge crit zone, jump again quick meele his face to crit and get both pushed away then blight my way out with a slow for him and haste for me.

As attikus i know i can punch avobe 100 per hit so every hit is probably going to be aimed to her face for crits, the deal is to have my ult full stacks to keep her in range after 3 hits or i wont secure the kill.

So in both situations all depends on thorn position.

#141

Keep nerfing characters. Some of them (Galilea) are still clearly overpowered.

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#142

Just making a point that the most deadly aspect of Thorn’s ultimate wasn’t necessarily the damage, but the lack of knowing WHEN she’s using it. Which they are changing. Orendi makes a distinctive noise and is doing hand signs, but the sound she makes is what truly gives it away. Thorn just holds her hand up and hurls that ■■■■.

I agree with nerfing Kleese’s current damage and range on his tracking taser. Same with reducing the range on Ambras. Takes no skill what so ever.

Galilea is currently a better disrupter than actual classified CC characters, so, nerf the hell out of that.

Dragon’s nerfs are warranted. Being able to stun me AS you create a large pool of aoe damage whilst AOE melee decimating (clapping). Too much.

Bolder isn’t a character, but actually one of the game designers, as to why he can’t be killed.

All the characters should require a bit of skill to master. Yet there is a clear imbalance with characters such as Deande who need greater attention to detail to dominate, and survive at that.

#143

are you implying you made a loadout based entirely around A SINGLE HELIX for Kleese? GEE that doesnt make it sound OVERPOWERED at all does it?!:unamused:

#144

Please explain me what you are trying to say because i do not understand you.

If what i understand is correct, yes, yes indeed thats why right now im getting all the att power i can get; around +28%gear and +25% hélix(taser).

Before it was: shield + heal power + skill dmg, to increas my healing Powers and mortar dmg.

#145

Nah fam I seldom have problems with Thorn, like I said Pendles or Shayne and Aurox are a great counter

#146

Galilea isn’t exactly op but her kit is stupidly overstuffed so she can only be played as a cc chaining assassin.

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#147

If Shayne and aurox and pendles are beating thorn then that thorn clearly didn’t know what she was doing. Thorn can easily outrun pendles and as thorn I’ve never had troubles with shayne and aurox. Thorn decimates melee like no other. may I ask what CR the thorns you play are? I seriously feel like you’re getting paired with newbie thorns. If you were fighting skilled thorns melee would hardly touch them she counters melee so hard it’s ridiculous.

#148

Lol lvl 3 right hélix makes thorn un tochable by meeles, after the push she can blight haste slow who ever try to touch her

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#149

Exactly she has no hard counters she can evade most abilities easily and then get you with curse blight ult combo for instant death

#150

The thing is: a good pendless will w8 untill she has around 600-800 hp of he got skill dmg and meele dmg and +25% back dmg he can (sometimes) kill her before she turns around.

Just w8 untill she is focused aiming or blight and vollay is in cd to attack and never use injection as an opening because you need that slow to keep her close and find smoke bomb if she run (you probably can use a corner to cloak) use your nice invisible speed to hunt her down

#151

I can do well with pendles but 90% of pendles players will just go screw with buildables. Also every time I’ve had pendles attack me as thorn I just used burst propulsion to launch away then followed up with a volley to the face which usually wrecks his hp

#152

Then you are not usig your volley if you are saving it for pendless <3 i Belice thats the way a pendless should be played, w8 untill your enemy screw it

#153

Well volleys CD is low and I don’t use it unless I’m close up and can crit with it. And usually the melees come to me so it’s instant crit damage

#154

But you are not the 100% of thorns and many many players use her as a caster

#155

But the caster thorns as well are way too strong. Caster thorn has no real counter because she can mop the floor with whoever tries.

#156

Caster thorn is in cd and pendless and deande can have fun

#157

But the thing is they’re both slow as hell when attacking so they’re easy to avoid. They can get the drop on her and make her retreat sure but they can’t keep up with thorn. Also if thorns skills are in cd and you’re playing caster you would obviously want to fall back for a bit so you’re not vulnerable.

#158

She CAN do more, it’s just that that’s the easiest way to play her, and the fact that her two basic skills both have CC – one of them up to three different kinds at once – means that she doesn’t even have to go out of her way to save her CC skills, AND her triple-CC skill also causes enemies to take more damage.