I like both characters and i can tell you this, if i see atikus first i curse him and w8 for him to jump onto me to jump and use volley in his huge crit zone, jump again quick meele his face to crit and get both pushed away then blight my way out with a slow for him and haste for me.
As attikus i know i can punch avobe 100 per hit so every hit is probably going to be aimed to her face for crits, the deal is to have my ult full stacks to keep her in range after 3 hits or i wont secure the kill.
So in both situations all depends on thorn position.
