Story Time with Jythri

Here’s the second batch.

[details=Summary]jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:00 PM
Only things I’ll really say there is that he’s not a robot. He’s not Jennerit. He is Kemessian.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:00 PM
While we’re on lifespans…they live like 300-400 years

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:01 PM
So much fun stuff. I love the Kemessians. The kelvites are fun too. As well as the varimorphs.
I’d love to do a novelette on the varimorphs.

candy cane conservator - 12/15/2016 at 1:01 PM
Is there anything non spoilery that you can share about the Varelsi? :x

wesdianboston - 12/15/2016 at 1:02 PM
ah on varimorph jythri since they shapeshift are they genderless?

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:02 PM
@candy cane conservator Hmm. Ask me a question and I’ll see if I can answer. :smiley:

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:02 PM
We definitely talk a lot about the Varelsi and darkening and such in “Heart of Ekkunar”

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:03 PM
@wesdianboston They have genders. How many, and how they reproduce…that’s something that needs some exploration. One of the reasons I’d love to write about them.

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:03 PM
from the AMA stuff
What hierarchical system do the Varelsi use? Emperors/Empresses, King/Queen, HiveMind, Electoral.

Kaleidodemon - 12/15/2016 at 1:03 PM
Are the Varelsi one race or a collection of races that have been corrupted by the Void? There’s a question that I’d love to see answered but am pretty sure will have to wait a while.(edited)

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:04 PM
@Kitru We’ve never said. :smiley: They definitely HAVE organization, though.

wesdianboston - 12/15/2016 at 1:04 PM
ah i see so orendi is definitely female then not a blop of dark goo? hehehe

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:04 PM
@Kaleidodemon Both.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:05 PM
@wesdianboston Orendi absolutely identifies as a female.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:05 PM
@wesdianboston Currently, at least. :smile:

CosmicGayces - 12/15/2016 at 1:05 PM
Why do Miko and Kelvin refer to Mellka as “Lost Little Eldrid”? I know that it’s her lore title, but before I heard their callout dialogues I thought that it was just that

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:06 PM
@Garland It’s been one of my brighter areas of fun on this project, yes. :smiley:

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:06 PM
@CosmicGayces Mellka is our other half-breed.

CosmicGayces - 12/15/2016 at 1:07 PM
Yee that I knew from her lore
Father was a human born from the Penarch system and her mother was an Aelfrin refugee from Eshteni I believe

Garland - 12/15/2016 at 1:07 PM
Does Phoebe still flirt with Caldarius. Thats the important question

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:07 PM
@CosmicGayces And she’s kind of our “child of two worlds”. She’s half human, and she’s always had close associations with the Peacekeepers. But there’s something deep within her that calls to her Eldrid heritage.

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:08 PM
@Garland more importantly, does Caldarius flirt back?

Garland - 12/15/2016 at 1:08 PM
YES!

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:08 PM
So, the more “core” Eldrid, like Miko, would see that as wandering from the true Observer spirit of the Eldrid.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:08 PM
@Kitru Ha. I think he does NOW, at least in my head.

wesdianboston - Today at 1:09 PM
hold on when you say human doesnt that mean its from earth orar there other planets identifies as human species?

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:10 PM
it would be awesome to see some “deep dive” social interaction dialogues for various characters
Thorn + Montana and book club

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:10 PM
@wesdianboston Human is just the species that most resembles you and me. We don’t include “earth” per se. As far as the denizens of the Battleborn universe know, humans inhabited several thousand worlds, and have over time broken into demi-human groups, like the Jennerit and the Aplians.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:11 PM
@Kitru Oh, then you should play “Montana and the Demon Bear” :smile:

General Pandacat ??? - 12/15/2016at 1:12 PM
Most sci-fi includes a “human” race, usually for the main character, as they’re easiest to identify with, and also easy to write for and design

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:12 PM
@General Pandacat ??? Exactly. You usually need to have a center of relatability to help the audience get acclimated.

General Pandacat ??? - 12/15/2016 at 1:13 PM
Maybe he’s like the alien from MIB, a little tiny dude piloting a mech suit

Garland - 12/15/2016 at 1:13 PM
that would ruin a serious character
danny phantom did that with that hunter ghost guy right?

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:13 PM
why would it ruin Caldarius as a serious character?

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:13 PM
whistles innocently

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:15 PM
Heh. Shayne lived in a mining base for a time named “Septimus Six”

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:15 PM
for Thorn, her geneology list is basically matriarchal with a single mention of “(Graft of)…”

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:16 PM
my guess was that it meant marriage or adoption

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:16 PM
@Kitru Yes. The Aelfrin are very matriarchal. They trace their genaology through the mothers, because they feel they make a bigger contribution to the genetic makeup of the being.

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:16 PM
what does the “Graft of” mean, though?

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:17 PM
was more of the question

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:17 PM
"Graft of" is just their way to say “child of”, really. In some ways, sexual reproduction is very similar to “grafting” a tree, right? Take a part of this, put it forcibly into that, get a new fruit.

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:18 PM
then why is it separate from “Daughter of”?

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:18 PM
Oh wait…yeah. that’s right.
Sometimes, I can’t quite keep every little touch in my head. :smiley:

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:18 PM
and the Graft is where the familial name changes

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:18 PM
(I wrote it DOWN so I wouldn’t HAVE to remember…)

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:23 PM
we all wait, with bated breath

Kaleidodemon - 12/15/2016 at 1:24 PM
Waiting sucks.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:24 PM
Huh. So I did make a big deal with “graft of” in that lore.
I’ll have to think about what that means, precisely.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:25 PM
OH
I know what it meant.

Kaleidodemon - 12/15/2016 at 1:25 PM
Thorn was adopted?

General Pandacat ??? - 12/15/2016 at 1:25 PM
I like it, it makes the Eldrid more exotic, like when Boldur calls Mellka “little oak”

Kaleidodemon - 12/15/2016 at 1:26 PM
Grafting a branch from one tree onto another tree. That’s what it makes me think of.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:26 PM
No no…I think tha tTeshak Emeksiku had no daughters.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:27 PM
No. Wife of the son. Not a natural daughter. Daughter-in-law.

dspaws - 12/15/2016 at 1:27 PM
speaking of thorn, there was this concept art i saw with her and this scaly dragon-like dog with her. what is that?

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:28 PM
Aw. the scalewolf. :frowning: Now I’m sad.

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:28 PM
I think you’re refering to Pemenukia, actually
not Teshka
Pemenukia was the Daughter of Teshka

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:28 PM
Pemenukia is the daughter-in-law of Teshka, not the daughter.

Garland - 12/15/2016 at 1:29 PM
How do Kemessians reproduce?

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:29 PM
Very carefully.

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:29 PM
Thorn, daughter of Ebrynneth, daughter of Vimadaam, daughter of Masha, daughter of Elessamorn, graft of Pemenukia, daughter of Teshka, daughter of Azienna(edited)

wesdianboston - 12/15/2016 at 1:30 PM
so aelfrin is not demi-human?

Leaddybum - 12/15/2016 at 1:31 PM
Evolved from the aztanti like the jennerit
A race that all look like vegeta apparently!

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:31 PM
:smiley:
You know, I never did an evolutionary time line of all the races.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:33 PM
We definitely establish that Eldrid and Jennerit descend from the Aztanti
Sorry. Aelfrin, not Eldrid.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:33 PM
I consider Aelfrin the “core” Eldrid race. But the Eldrid are comprised of hundreds of races, in truth.

wesdianboston - 12/15/2016 at 1:34 PM
whatabout ambra is that a glove or her actual hands?

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:34 PM
Glove.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:34 PM
Hmm.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:35 PM
We’ve released old Thorn concepts before, right?

Kitru - 12/15/2016at 1:35 PM
yes

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:35 PM
This one?

Leaddybum - 12/15/2016 at 1:35 PM
WOAH

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:35 PM
that’s new to me

Leaddybum - 12/15/2016 at 1:35 PM
never seen that!

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:36 PM
Her Ult, if you watch the very first demo video we did, shot out a wolf instead of a green energy ball.

jythri - 12/15/2016at 1:36 PM
We modeled and animated that thing. ANd then cut it, because it was hard to read on screen, and …you know… AI is hard.

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:36 PM
btw, are we going to get more info on the Magna Carta
?*
and what’s up with it now?

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:37 PM
@Kitru Not in this round of operations. If I have my way, that’s a major theme for the future.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:38 PM
I think that was the first concept for thorn.
What you’ve probably seeen is…

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:40 PM
Gotta slow down a bit on the new concept releases. :smiley:

Garland - 12/15/2016 at 1:40 PM
I’m pretty sure its a lizard at this point.
What I really want is Concept References of Caldarius’s armor for drawing refs.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:41 PM
Caldarius was an interesting concept. He was concept in a modeling tool (zbrush), not on paper.

TL_Kasteron - 12/15/2016 at 1:41 PM
A quick question relating to Kleese, actually: there’s a video by MentalMars where Kleese has a voiceover introducing the characters, and he mentions that he wrote vampire fanfic of Rath: can you confirm this as canon?

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:41 PM
Yes. Kleese wrote vampire fanfic of Rath to mock him.

Garland - 12/15/2016 at 1:42 PM
It does not help that Caldy’s character render is not a really good angled one. You guys should show us his pose from his Skin selection sheet

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:43 PM
Yeah, Caldarius in still is very VERY hard to make look good.

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:44 PM
can you explain why the Great Severance happened in sync with the Darkening of Jennar or is that something that will be explained in future ops?

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:45 PM
also, how old is Boldur and how old do Ekkuni dwarves get?
(and is Boldur an extreme example of one or pretty representative)

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:47 PM
@Kitru The short answer on the Great Severance is that is when the Magna Carta deemed the chances of the universe being saved had just gone to hell. Future profit projections were suddently so dismal that it detatched itself from the magnet.

Kaleidodemon - 12/15/2016 at 1:48 PM
Ah, so the Magna Carta did not get sucked into the Void as some people have assumed.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:48 PM
@Kitru On Boldur. He’s 2,533. Born in 17,425 c.r.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:49 PM
@Kaleidodemon Maybe. I never said that. :smiley: But that wasn’t the day he caused the Great Severance. The fate of the Magna Carta remains unknown.

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:49 PM
OH…OH OH OH OH

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:49 PM
By the way, everyone…

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:49 PM
Happy Solus Day. :smiley:

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:50 PM
The Heliophage was destroyed on 19.958.350. In our terms, December 15th is day 350 on our calendar. So. Today.

CosmicGayces - 12/15/2016 at 1:51 PM
The Heliophage was destroyed 3 days before my birthday that’s coo

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:51 PM
3 days before your birthday, like a million years in the future. :smile:

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:54 PM
Shhh.

The Magna Carta - 12/15/2016 at 1:55 PM
Gearbox people are almost mythical here, it’s like a unicorn (scooter quote if i recall)

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:55 PM
or Sith like

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:55 PM
Are you calling me horny?

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:55 PM
no, he’s saying that you fart rainbows :stuck_out_tongue:

wesdianboston - 12/15/2016 at 1:55 PM
so jythri who is the oldest and the youngest of all the available battleborn so far including beatrix!

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:55 PM
Oh. Well. That’s absolutely true.
Youngest is Shayne, I believe. She’s 16.

Kitru - 12/15/2016 at 1:56 PM
oldest is Ambra?

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:56 PM
Yes. Ambra is 11,753

jythri - 12/15/2016 at 1:59 PM
Now…Miko in some ways -could- be considered the oldest.[/details]

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I can’t believe Magna Carta just noped itself out. How amusing the highest pinacle of AI thought the most logical conclusion to handling this situation was to shut down.

I’m so fascinated by Magna Carta though… Who created it, when was it created, what does it look like… Who governs it… or is it “they”? MC seems to have a personality of itself*, probably not the wisest decision to make such a influential entity susceptible to mood shifts. What would happen to the current Magnuses if it was to come back online? Where does it reside currently? Does its sudden silence have something to do with the disappearance of the Jennerit Empress? I really wish to know how MC is weaves into this universe’s story. It’s such a shame there’s nothing to go on even though the Great Severance was a notably big event! What were the causes that lead to it, was it simply MC’s own conclusion or was there someone else involved… The “darkening” of the greatest AI in history should not be left unexplored.

An interesting wording jythri used here…

On Magna Carta

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Not in this round of operations. If I have my way, that’s a major theme for the future.

…hinting there might be more story ops besides the 5 already announced? Certainly hope he gets his way, MC deserves more attention!

Anyway, all of this was a very interesting read, thanks to jythri for the lore tidbits and thanks for Kitru and lowlines for the transcript. Loved to learn more about the “behind-the-scenes” stuff too… Seems like Battleborn is not just a game, it’s an interactive experience between the devs and the community, and I’m loving that! It’s alive and well, keen on seeing how things develop!

*Magna Carta expresses its own thoughts in this line… likely the only known quote from it as well?
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It was @dwarfurious. And yes, it’s terrifying.

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I have a question for @Jythri if it’s not too impertinent.

At the end of the OP, you said:

But that doesn’t make much sense in the context of the other established lore for the character. See this post I made a while back that pieced together everything we know or can reasonably surmise about Caldarius’ history from all in-game sources (character lore, the Renegade, etc.).

Caldarius was a slave about 215 years ago, immediately shipped off to war for about 100 years, and then thrown in jail for the last 100 after his Sustainment was completed.

When would he have been “inner circle” leadership, and how would he have had a chance to build a relationship with the older, Sustained Jennerit Battleborn? I could understand them knowing of him pretty easily due to his success in the pits, and perhaps watching him fight. I could absolutely see Deande realizing how much of a destabilizing influence Caldarius could be for Rendain given his incredible ego and singular drive for Sustainment. But he went from slave -> frontline soldier -> prisoner without a whole lot of space in between.

I would love to come to Australia, I’ve never been.

Imagine a Battleborn Lore summit - which is where three of us sit for hours over coffee and I rant about things rattling around in my head.

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We clarified this on Reddit, but for those who don’t spend their day bouncing between forums…

The “He” in my sentence is Rath, not Caldarius. Rath was a “Keeper of the Blade” and bodyguard to the Empress. Deande was the spymistress, and reported to both the Empress and Rendain. Ambra was a Silent Sister with a senior position in caretaking Sustainment. All three inner circle.
Caldarius, as you quote, was a slave, a gladiator, a soldier, a hero, Sustained, a prisoner, and a refugee, in that order. Never inner circle leadership, yet Rath and Ambra (near the end) developed quite a sympathy for his plight.

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While on the topic of Rath and his position as a Keeper, I have two questions about that.

The title of “Keeper” is given to everyone in the order known as the Keeper of the Blades. Rath however has the title of “Blademaster” among the Keepers as learned from his “ten wins with this character” title and from the battleplan lore. My natural assumption is that this title is given to the leader of the Keepers as Rath is undoubtedly the head Keeper now that the others are dead.

So first question: Am I right about assuming that Blademaster is the title given to the head Keeper?

Second: If the answer to the first question is yes, did Rath appoint himself as the Blademaster of the Keepers after the others failed their duty or was he Blademaster beforehand? I can see it going either way because there are members older than him but I don’t think anyone has been a Keeper longer than him as he was sustained before the order was established.

If the answer to the first question is no, then what does the title “Blademaster” signify?

I was searching through the chat logs when you posted this.

Here’s the question that was asked and then your response.

Leaddybum - Today at 3:32 PM
I’m rlly curious about Rath’s relationships with the other Jennerit [it sounds like deande and him are close buddies? that fight a lot? alike to brother sister?

jythri - Today at 3:33 PM
@Leaddybum He and Deande (and Ambra to a degree) were all inner circle leadership for hundreds (really thousands) of years together.

jythri - Today at 3:33 PM
So, they are very well acquainted, for certain.

jythri - Today at 3:33 PM
Ambra and Rath are both very sympathetic to Caldarius (you can see that in the lore) and have reasons to be unusually close.

Edit 1: I’ll adjust the header to not cause anymore confusion.

Are we going to have a hord mode? If we do, could one map be the pit? Where caldarius fought?

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For Rath, Blademaster is a separate designation reflecting his mastery of crafting and use of blades. He’s a bladesmith, as reinforced in his lore image. I don’t think we’ve ever established his place in the hierarchy of Keepers leadership.

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Ok, I’ve been wondering that for a while. Thanks for clearing that up.

Wait, I just looked back at the Battleplan lore from 11/17/16.

“Item 2: I am appointing former Blademaster Verod Rath to the office of Warmaster, along with all its titles and honors. Issue a summons order to Lord Commander Rath and schedule a meeting with whoever is Lord of Ceremonies these days. Additionally, the positions of Blademaster and Spymaster are now vacant. Reach out to the other Counselors and schedule a meeting to discuss possible candidates. [Personal note: Rath might not like being pulled from the front lines, but if the Jennerit people are to survive, we cannot afford to overlook his strategic value as a commander.”

If Blademaster is a title to recognize his skill with crafting and swordsmanship then why would he be considered a “former Blademaster” by Deande? It implies that Rath was no longer the Blademaster even before he was raised to the position of Warmaster.

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Well, yes. It’s a formal position, too. Imagine you’re an elite sword-wielding guard in a universe with interdimensional portals and laser guns. The person who makes blades that can stay in that fight is ceremonially very important to the Keepers. It’s not the leader of the Keepers, but it’s not “just the quartermaster” either. It’s a venerated title among the Keepers that celebrates his skill at crating as well as imbues upon him a responsibility for the care, crafting, and training with blades for the elite guard.

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I see. I misinterpreted your first response thinking it meant that Blademaster wasn’t a title specific to the Keepers.

Need more BOLDUR lore!

I bet this line really breaks the ice at parties!

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All this talk of lore has got me to finally do something I said I was going to do a while ago…


I still haven’t gone through and tagged all the news articles and battleplan stuff yet (there’s also a bunch of events not being output yet either (because I haven’t got a approx. date yet for them or missed them in my first pass), but at least there’s something to look at now :sunglasses:

Also as mentioned in the legend, there are 2 other calendar systems in use here.

I.R - Imperial Rule, which I consider is +5 C.R., aka the day Empress Lenore came into power. She uses it in the letterhead whenever she sends a message to someone. @Kitru on Discord has argued with me excessively over this 5 year time offset…

V.C. - Valkyrie Chronicles, which is the name of Reyna’s diary. Each entry is marked by the number of days since she started. Through the power of math, I believe she started her diary circa 19940.217 C.R., which of course assumes she has been consistently writing something every single day (or at least keeping track of the number of days since she started).

Both of these date systems are converted dynamically so I don’t have to go back and change each one if new information arises that requires adjusting these offsets.

[edit]

I have also been thinking about making a Battleborn Event Calendar (mapped to the Gregorian Calendar) with character birthdays and anniversaries of key events such as Solus Day. People have already tossed up ideas of having in-game events around these dates such as everyone playing as Rath on his birthday etc.

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A lot to unpack there. But I knew Alani had to be in her Late teens early 20s. She too annoying not to be. Shayne is 16 and gay, also knew that. The whole family lineage for the Aelfrin, is really confusing. And wait, if Variamorphs have a definite gender than saying “she is female for now” kind of goes against that, doesn’t it? It mean she can change her gender, so her gender isn’t definite, right? Also, then man Ghalt might be older than I thought he was. I thought he was like 52. Finally, and this is my biggest question, Why is Alani aquatic? I don’t remember Heletians being Aquatic and humans certainly aren’t. Her nanotech allows her to control it, but It doesn’t allow her to breath it, does it? And if it does, how does that work? I mean she has gills, but then we come back to her make-up. I guess I would like to learn more about character biology. Also, glad to see Caldarius powered through to not end it all. I know that feel bro.

Battleborn is a trans-inclusive setting, which is how I interpreted the qualifier.

They explained Alani’s backstory in the 20th Battleplan.

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