#219

Ahh, good man doing the work of the Lord.

I saw that you was trying gonna post a cooldown guide or something. Your fantastic!

#220

Yeah the missing part is Grizzled, I might just start working on the post and try Grizzled later. One last try at getting the timing for it

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#221

Good luck!

#222

I was way off… I guess I don’t even remember my own gear. Got these stats all mixed up with each other on mod and artifact haha

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#223

Still sexier than mine. My best Blasta has like Jakobs damage, CoV something and grenade damage.

I have horrid luck with mods and relics but great luck with weapons and shields haha.

#224

I got lucky and got one that has +3 Vampyr / + 1 Redist / +1 Holy pin with 24% mag, 28% splash, and +5 grenades.

I randomly got in a slaughter shaft run a month and a half ago

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#225

this is how I feel as well. Moze is the character, IB is simply a skill.
Make IB clean house when its active, and not let people stay in it. Make it a skill, not that character.

In order to try and cater to both sides, would need to work gear to have trade offs. Make IB a killing machine for a short duration, or allow users to stay in it, but not have near the damage output. Assuming new class mods and relics would be the best way to achieve this.

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#226

That or add a skill tree with a different action skill option in dlc2

#227

that would work well too.

#228

??? Did something change, or is that a GR perk rather than a Moze skill?

#229

GR perk, probably the most important thing for Moze too

#230

Ah! Pretty sure I have that one, and I’m currently at 10% on the action skill cooldown through spending points. EP seemed like an obvious thing to take with an explosive/splash-centric build, but it would be interesting to see the actual math behind all these combinations.

#231

It’s not bad in specific circumstances. But if you have a mod or relic with CDR it can replace 5/5 EP and be way more reliable. If it works for you that’s great. But if you get a shield with that cooldown and a class mod, it’s probably not worth stacking anymore on there except maybe Grizzled, the results are diminishing so much so it’s only worth it for people trying to loop IB

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#232

I’m on TVHM with Moze in Takedown. Iron Bear is completely worthless against Wotan. As soon as I cross the dome shield my Iron Bear is done. Even a shot with the Rail Gun is Immune. What’s the point of even having a mech if it’s worthless?

#233

Iron Bear is definitely not worthless vs Wotan. True Takedown in just Bear might not be within Bears reach, however Vanquisher pods Bear is a very useful dps burst.

My most recent experimentation has been with grenade Moze that uses Bear as the primary method of stripping Wotan’s shield. There’s also neat things to know like you can walk inside Wotan’s inner barrier with Bear and you won’t be buffeted out.

(All experimentation is on True Takedown MH4 btw.)

#234

What grenades are you using?

#235

Trackers.

#236

Yeah, trying the same thing — Roided Maddening Tracker works really well.

#237

You can’t even touch Wotan’s inner shield. As soon as I walk into Wotan’s outer shield, Iron Bear is done. Rail Gun is useless, says Immune. Had to switch to grenades and minigun on Iron Bear to do any damage at all.

#238

To the OP and all the major contributors to this thread, I just want to say Thanks for your investment of time and effort. I don’t consider myself an advanced BL3 player; my Moze can do lots of TVHM M3 but by no means all. I’m one of the ones who almost never uses IB because of the Moze/IB survivability tradeoff discussed above. I realize there are players skilled enough to make this tradeoff, or balance, work, and my hat’s off to you: I doubt that’s the majority of BL3’s intended audience. Thanks for the IB-centric build info and in-depth discussion, it’ll be fun to try!

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