Still open. I knew we could do it!
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Actually, no. âThey/themâ as a singular non-gendered pronoun has precedence in English usage. That fell out of favour at some point so that itâs not within living memory, but itâs still part of the linguistic record.
As you said, language changes - and sometimes can change back.
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âŚforcibly, as weâve seen demonstrated by the mods.
âThe whole world must learn of our tolerant ways, by force!â
I think it would demonstrate unhealthy megalomania for any forum moderator to claim that they had single handedly restored the use of singular âthey/themâ to the English language. This has been happening in the English-speaking world for a while now; the current situation regarding FL4K is simply a reflection of the change in society at large.
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To be honest this is garbage on the Eve of one the most anticipated games coming out. The idiots at gearbox have to bring gender into the mix. Nobody cares except the confused people which is 0.0003 . fl4k is a robot and most are going to perceive him (pronoun) as a male. Bottom line leave to politics and gender equality crap out of our game.
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Thatâs funny, youâre funny if you think âsociety at largeâ is shifting towards singular they for people. It is a very small percent of people who are using it and it confuses people more often than not.
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You care enough to post that
leaves thread
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This is the perfect transition into a Get Smart episode.
The meta is strong, up in here.
Fl4k catching Fl4k for simply being Fl4k spreading Fl4k.
Paul Atreides, eat your heart out.
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Oh, I agree totally.
I mean Axton liked girls.
And occasionally guys.
But he was only loyal to his turret.
Totes no equality up in here.
âŚthere needs to a HARD eye roll emoticon, for moments like theseâŚ
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Genuinely wanted to keep out of this thread, but I did want to throw in one clarification.
No, GBX is not some authoritarian Pinko-Stasi. The reason I know that is I wouldnât be here if that were the case, they wouldâve never invited me to help moderate.
I never talk politics online, because I do not think there is anything as dull as prattling on about some topic that we all know weâll never change our minds on. I am really not going to get in to my views in detail, because I donât care to share them and you genuinely donât care to hear them.
I own a ΟοΝὟν ΝιβΠhat, and my politics are nearly completely in line with Christopher Hitchens (with maybe a sprinkle of Sam Harris), and if these are Conservative voices in 2019, I think old Hitch would be rolling in his grave if he hadnât donated his body to science.
Really guys, this is the hill youâre choosing to die on? Youâre this outraged that a videogame company is made a gender neutral robot and is expressing their belief on the matter on their forum?
I am very much a First Amendment kind of guy, and isnât GBX practicing their right? They own a forum which they define the rules of discourse, they believe that misgendering some one is an active insult. While I do understand that many of you donât believe that point of view, the moderators have defended every group.
Every group.
I personally shut down a thread that mocked Christians, we have removed comments that asked people their ethnicity as if it would invalidate their opinion if they said âwhiteâ, because you are not allowed to attack people on here. We didnât receive complaints for that, the original posters even understood.
I am completely fine with a Thunderdome style debate, but my skin is thick enough to roll over coals.
The internet is full of shouting halls that masquerade as forums. GBX wants this place to be different and I think that is completely reasonable of them, and I understand why you may not.
They have to create a boundary as to what is considered to be an insult, and they most certainly should be the adjudicators of that term.
While I may not agree with what you say, I am defending your right to say it.
I have Trans people people come to my shop continually, and I refer to them as he/her/they by their preference of pronoun. Why? Because it makes them smile, because it makes them comfortable, and many places around me donât offer them that comfort.
Come on lads, youâre better than this. At least I would like to believe it. This isnât you, this is the creation of some âotherâ that is a minority within a minority to demonize. Instead of debating, just sit down and chat to a lot of the LGBT members of this community and youâll realize you have very little that differentiate you.
Then we can talk about something actually valuable, like how youâre all novices for using anyone other than Amara because sheâs clearly the best character of any gender identity.
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This man speaks the truth.
Albeit I believe Amara and Zane to be a 50/50 split.
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60/40 but yes. Iâve got a note at the bookies that it turns out Zane is Big Bossâs 209th clone, and the Kojima Empire is expanding.
Quote me on this. One eyed specialist with a cloudy past? Yeah I know where this is going.
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Iâm siding with Giu on this.
Amara is the mage and the mage always wins.
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Why not just say best character play referring to Amass. Why does three term gender identity have to be thrown in every statement as if to brain wash people into accepting it. It should have no place in our entertainment. And the issue is banning people for not using proper pronouns when referring to fk4k how ridiculous is that. We canât just be happy the game is coming out.
Iâll refer you to a quote by one of my fellow mods.
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You know who canât smile? Flak. Because Flakâs not real and literally cannot care what you use to talk about them. Also because flakâs got no mouth. Yes, misgendering is an insult⌠to actual God Damn people, not piles of polygons. Or is insulting fictional characters in general against the rules now?
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Underhill, going further under barrow?
Sigh.
Iâd say 10/10 high horse routine, for these mental gymnastics.
Except youâll never stick the landing.
EDIT:
GD wasnât âgender dysmorphicâ?
Well God Damn.
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Who hurt you? Are you ok? Need a hug?
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Honestly Iâm just hoping that the people who see this as the be all end all organize a boycott. â â â â . Iâll support it.
I mean, obviously Iâm still buying the game.
It just feels like Iâm going to have a much better playing experience if theyâre successful.
I mean⌠oh no⌠youâre really sticking it to libtards, donât buy it >.>
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I gotcha, mate. I see what youâre getting at, but that just isnât the case. I know you donât need to believe me, but I hope you do.
No one has been banned (Iâd definitely know if they had been), theyâre just trying to add a gender neutral character because that is what they want, and that is their right. Theyâre also trying to create a standard of dialogue where users canât insult each other using what they believe to be an insult.
No law has been passed. No commonlaw decision or statute. Just a discourse agreement. Not something worth fretting over, genuinely.
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