So, what we’ve learned here is that.
Words evolve over time to mean things due to common usage and language is complicated?
A bit on the nose, don’t ya think? Hahahahah
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Thank you for this. I just choked on my breath in laughter. In my humble opinion you just won the internet. Bravo.
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“There goes Giu! Abducting with that can do attitude.”
While we are on evolving language.
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FUNNY STORY.
Or not. Actually. I used to highlight every Watson ejaculation in my Holmes ebooks
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That’s terrible. I mean, I laughed any way. But still awful.
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All I am saying is;
Via those two posts. Language must evolve.
Because if some one says; “Giu suddenly ejaculated after abducting in the bar earlier.” Some one should call the police and it better not be ■■■■■■■ Inspector Lestrade.
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Well, I would then screencap them and send them to friends for giggles when they were down in the dumps
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The difference is in how some of those words are applied at times,
what makes a homophobe?
Is it just the guy screaming ■■■■■■ waving a cross in civilized people’s faces?
Or does that include parents who don’t think their kids should be around pride events because they see things like this online?(not saying you fall into either camp, but pointing out there’s grey areas)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffingtonpost.ca/amp/entry/pride-parade-kid-friendly_ca_5d013916e4b0dc17ef03287b/
that’s why I’m arguing it, authoritarian tactics are authoritarian tactics. Doesn’t matter if it’s pro LGBT or anti LGBT. Or pro ANYTHING. I don’t think ANYTHING is as simple as people want to think so I question.
“Consequences” are censorship. I’m not saying gearbox doesn’t have the right, but I CAN call a spade a spade.
I’m okay with words evolving over time, but change for the sake of change is seldom a good thing in my opinion.
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In case you missed it, my comment was a tongue in cheek reference to the fact that in the middle of this discussion, a side discussion sprouted about the word deduction and it’s usage in English to replace the word Abduction, and how that felt like a really on the nose c plot for this sitcom. 
Though. To properly respond to your statement: when is it “just for the sake of change” and “well. There’s a reason, I just don’t agree with the reason, so, I’m saying it’s just for the sake of change”.
Because I’ve seen that used before. Often times, someone will suggest a change for somethings betterment, and someone will go “why change it just to change it”, ignoring any possible points of why it’s not “just for the sake of change”.
Not saying that’s your case here. Just another brick in this lego motel.
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If your response to homophobic people being kicked out of pride is “authoritarian tactics are authoritarian tactics” then I’m afraid I have nothing else to say to you.
Gearbox Forums is clearly a safe space for non-binary people and people who use they/them pronouns. They are going to throw out anyone who doesn’t follow the rules. Safe spaces are more important in times like these where hatred is everywhere. We need a breather from literally everywhere else we go being hostile to us. I appreciate the forums taking this stance because it is so terrible to see everywhere else being so hostile to FL4K and by extension non-binary people.
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“Consequences are censorship” is going to be plastered in gold ■■■■■■■ letters. I am so grateful. Do you do stand up?
Bringing things back to the planet we ■■■■■■■ live on and not what ever you are on about.
Pride is different in all places and all families treat pride differently.
Some prides are so safe and so watered down from what they originated that some people think police should be given their own float.
Some prides are run how that community wants to run them, that may mean some fringe communities that have, sheltered, helped, and kept the LGBT community safe for decades. This will mean kink at pride in different forms from time to time.
You can very easily see if a pride event is to much for you, your children, your parents or anyone. Keeping your children from that section of pride, is not homophobic. An asexual person not wishing to be included in the more sexual side of pride is not homophobic. a Non-binary person not wishing to be apart of the more gendered side of pride, also not homophobic.
Also homophobic is not a catch all term, somethings are more tolerable then others somethings are less so.
But jesus, consequences are censorship? Hold up, gonna go try verbally assaulting a toddler at the local cheeseburger factory and tell the mother she can’t censor me.
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I’m stealing this. It’s mine now.
Also unless something dire happens I’ll be spotty in the thread tonight and hopefully absent completely tomorrow.
If you lot do see me, I will be hopped up on grey goose and cranberry juice. So probably not in a great debate mindset >.>
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I didn’t think you could top the last one, and then you went and did it. Can we have a thread that collects wonderful quotes from forum members and make this the banner?
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This is really the crux of the argument. You may be free from censorship but not free from consequences. You can steal candy from a baby, and then get slapped by the mother.
If you shoplift and you get caught, you get prosecuted.
If you call someone a racial slur in the street and then shout “It’s just a prank, bro!” it does not protect you from the consequences.
Consequences are not censorship because you still very much steal the candy, you still shoplift, you still yell a racial slur at a stranger. You may not even get in trouble with the law for some of the things you do. Censorship is, by definition, government action against a person to prevent them from speaking. It is arresting a journalist. It is shutting down a publication or website to prevent a person from speaking ill of the government. It is shutting down a protest so people cannot speak out against a government. These things are censorship and you are watering down the word.
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No, my response is to ask the standard of homophobe being applied because i’ve seen it used trivially too many times to give that word any weight on its own.
So rather than actually attempt to understand why someone disagrees with you you attack them by saying how they don’t live on the same world you do?
All right, well under American law that is an applicable exception to free speech. Meaning “fighting words”
My argument is for standardization for a lot of this, if you can find a reasonable standard for things i’m Okay with it. Changing things on a whim or a feeling as this seems? No.
Every single thing that people have tried to call enforcing the rules
- compelled speech
- lack of free speech
- censorship
- forced speech
These are all inaccurate. I’ve seen this before. On the League of Legends Player Behavior board. People would get banned for saying slurs or trolling and then get on the boards to complain about censorship and free speech. The fact of the matter is, you agree to the rules when you sign up and you play the game under their terms and conditions. If you break them, you are no longer allowed to play.
If you punch someone during an arm wrestle, you’re not gonna be allowed to arm wrestle any more. You might be allowed to punch someone in other circumstances, like in boxing, but not in arm wrestling.
This isn’t censorship. You’ve just discovered rule enforcement.
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Am I? How many people are shut down in modern discourse due to bias on internet platforms? Censorship can take place without governmental action.
Oh my god, every example sentence in that dictionary entry supports my claim. Not to mention, the dictionary entry is always going to be the most basic understanding the word for people learning about the word for the first time.
Try the Wikipedia article. I dare you.
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Where in the actual definitions did it mention government?
Don’t act like dictionary definitions actually give you the meaning of the word. We’ve literally been over this, in this very thread.