Thank you for this demonstration. This accurately shows the problem i have with the Hex and how little effort it takes to clear the hardest possible content just by pressing grenade every few seconds.
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Do you think this is special?
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You wanted to leave by the way^
Every few seconds? Every as fast as you can if you want, because they regenerate immediately anyway.
Show me your run, Iām waiting.
i will definetly try to get atleast a close result.
but why are you playing it if you dont like it? ( in dont like that build either tbh, thats why i do not play it)
i just cant get the issue with it. the only issue i can see is those people in Online-Session of the Player search. yes, i can understand this point.
Because it produces ~50 legendaries in 19 minutes without reloading bull, durrrrrrrrr.
Are we back in the ādonāt like it donāt play itā kindergarten argument in looter shooter game where everything is about legendaries/hour because 95% of them are bad and you are fishing for the 5% not terrible ones?
no its not only: dont like it dont play it.
its also: There are better ones out there. Just not that braindead
or do you think Moze grenade build is the BEST build rn?
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For 90% of the current content it easily is. For the rest 10% there are better. Talking about boss fight reload spam ones, where paper builds with one shot hat trick are better.
For example for all the matchmaking activities it is clearly one of the best, if not THE best build there is, simply because you are immortal and not just one trick pony with big crits.
For how easy this ā ā ā ā is to pull out, itās pretty criminal. You donāt even do anything, no special timings, no doing proper setupā¦ just spam nade. lul. Donāt even need to aim.
So people like brain dead gameplay. Also having homing help people with accessibility issue.
You may ask, why would anyone with accessibility issue play a shooter?
Well, because there are shooters like red dead ( auto lock) that is very accessible for people with accessibility issues. With homing grenades, these people can enjoy borderlands too.
If you dislike the playstyle, play another build, use another grenade. Donāt spoil it for others .
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i think its just the easiest one. nothing else. i really do not think its the best for any specific thing.
i still believe the hex is pretty fine and the issue is the specific kitā¦ couldnt see any good arguments against that
im thinking the same way!
BUT
i also see the āmatchmaking pointā. where players āruinā the experience of others.
And who says itās not for kit, I myself said so above. Hex itself is not THE issue, just the crazy interaction with Moze skills that needs to be toned down.
Nobody will suicide if instead of being 100% perfect immortal homing nuclear warhead on a stick with 100% sustain it will become 50% at both. At the very least you will get to likeā¦ shoot the gun and maybe even occasionally be in trouble.
Just because some people in the world arenāt behaving as you want them too doesnāt mean the world needs nerfed, you know?
We can choose to game with others, we can choose not too. We have friend lists and the ability to block people for a reason, they are to help create an environment where we can enjoy ourselves without people who otherwise ruin it for us. You have tools and capabilities at your immediate disposal to deal with this issue without a nerf or the game being patched.
I am sorry that other humans are not utilizing resources in a way you expect/feel is appropriate.
(This was said with honesty and respect, not malice or contempt)
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okay got it. So we can end on: Moze needs to get grenade skills nerfed, yes?
Second: What are my modifiers for our smol test?
- No Hex using, but grenade skills on Moze
- Hex allowed, but no grenades skills allowed on moze
- Both not allowed
- Whatever you can think of
Since we are not adressing the hex itself, my suggestion would be 2).
But im thankful of any other idea. I love such testing 
Hex grenade and flaker combo on Moze is nothing comparing to brawler ward sheld and face puncher shotgun.
Here is video
I think that devs are doing nerfs way too soon because they nerf maggie and now is useless and all jakobs pistols.
When I start playing bl3 the first thing I said was holy s**** jakobs pistols are very good, then I saw there is unforgiven.
Second thing that was on my mind unforgiven masher, and after all this nerfs happened I lost all hope that unforgiven masher will be in bl3, very disappointed how they implement changes.
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This one is an exploit, while Hex Moze is legit playing by the book.
Easy - no hex and you still use Loaded Dice. Go ahead 19 minutes offline TVHM M3 Slaughter Shaft.
Offline for extra fun - itās how it spawns so many anointed guys and so many legendaries.
I guess you can wing it with Storm Front, but ok fine by me.
I agree that the more people are able to enjoy a game in various ways the better.
But by that same logic there needs to be a niche for those players (like me) who want to have a challenge. (Or at least have a chance to SHOOT something IN A SHOOTER before it gets killed by an autoaim grenade fired 30 seconds ago)
The highest possible difficulty shouldnt be facerollable by everyone, their mom and their 3 year old sister just because there is a super broken homing item in the game. Thats the point of having a high difficulty.
If you want an easy mode item that is okay. But that easy mode item shouldnt clear content the same way on lowest and highest difficulty.
no hex but grenade skills?
i dont get the point. but if you accept this as prove - ok, i will try
what about modifiers? they can impact a ~20 minute run by a lot