The issues? I don't know if BB should release they way it is

Ok, hope you enjoy and your concerns are put to rest after release for yourself. To me, this game feels like one you can play and enjoy, go play a new release and come back to. It’s so much fun for myself personally and it seems to just have a vibrant and all round fun feel to it. I’ve personally not had a blast with games as much as this for a while, i can see myself becoming really invested in this one.

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Yea thanks i keep saying the beta was 10.5 gb and my preorder is like 20gb so im anxious to see what in the other 10 besides the missions.

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I could care less what “YouTubers” or “game journalists” think.

YouTubers usually have an agenda, and gaming journalists are so jaded and cynical that nothing pleases them.

Also, I immediately dismiss anyone who compares BB to any Moba.

The game is FUN. That’s enough for now.

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That’s exactly how I’ve explained it. That I haven’t had much fun lately on any other game, then I played this and found myself laughing at the dialog and the bright colors with gameplay was just…fun. Again.

Its still a moba everyone knows it. Characters with orginal skill, minion pushing, objective based gameplay in a relatively small or closed area. Multiplayer online battle arena. Its a moba.

And I’m not worried about fun now, I know I’m going to have fun when it release. I’m worried about fun in the long run. Titanfall was fun…for two weeks for me, I still think the game play is fun. But being fun with no substance is like having a party with 5 track and 2 kinds of alcohol. And the only snacks are pretzels.

I think the only way this game becomes boring in two weeks is if you play as ONLY one character and write the rest off. If you play as all the characters and the story you should have weeks of fun. Then the dlc coming for more fun. Then HOPEFULLY some cool game mode adds. Like my horde mode suggestion.

yeah, all mobas have single player and coop story campaign. like… yeah… im sure there is one… just wait… the names is… ehm… yeah, that one too.

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I will admit I had a little complaint in regards to the skins shown in the beta when compared to OW skins (and I know they’re two separate entities, but one cannot disregard the similarities) but after hearing the 3 Tiered skin system all my qualms were quelled.

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And I don’t blame people for reacting that way, because it wasn’t communicated to people playing the beta through the game (just like the Toby unlock and the lack of matchmaking). There are some things which could have been communicated a bit better. For a lot of people, the beta was a chance to make an impression. For many of those folks, they aren’t reading the forums.

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I will agree on both: those who do not troll forums for information and the intentional lack of information by the devs so that we as fans have a few surprises waiting for us.

Another problem is that we are making half-educated assumptions about this and that. While we should make assumptions, we should also have trust that the devs, who are just like us fans, have put the time/money/programing into making the best possible product.

I purchased Deluxe Edition because this is the most fun I’ve had since Left 4 Dead I/II. Absolutely love coop shooters. Don’t care what happens to Versus mode as long as PVE keeps giving a challenge.

So I look at this from the WoW dungeon runs perspective, and hence Overwatch is irrelevant.

Hell, I’ve been waiting for a decent coop shooter for years. And I love GBX for what they’ve done.

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It sounds as if the primary issue of the OP is how the Story Mode is being handled. And compared to something like Borderlands, the BB campaign is fractured, disjointed, and doesn’t have the cohesion that one would want. That this is absolutely true.

I remember two things I’ve heard from Gearbox in regards to this game.

The first being…in Borderlands the design focus was on the Guns, (Hence only 4 starting characters (+ 2 DLC Char) but 100 gazillion guns) while BB is focused on the characters. (Hence 25 starting characters and 5 DLC coming soon after)

The second being…that they saw a majority of Borderlands players only really played the game with one character, and they felt as if gamers were not getting the full BL experience by limiting themselves like that.

All this to say, I think the above two things are primary influences in why they choose this episodic direction to the campaign mode.
By having 30-45 minute episodes rather than an open world, it makes it a whole lot easier to jump into an episode either alone or with friends, with a different character.

One other thing I should mention…and it directly relates to the games longetivity and Gearbox support.
On the one hand, I agree with the OP in regards to the episodes not feeling as if they have much meaning because they are not set up in a sequential story-telling progression…and for someone looking for a good story…this could be off-putting. So this could hurt BB in the short term.

However, I fully believe that Gearbox is looking at the long-term.
By keeping the story-mode episodic AND non-sequential (from a story-telling progressive sense) what it actually allows them to do is to create as many Episodes as they want for as long as they are supporting the game.
Three years from now they could release 2 full story missions as DLC revolving around a specific character or two, and have it be completely part of the story, with-out losing any sense of progressive immersion…simply because there is no progressive immersion to begin with…so anyone playing 3 years from now won’t be complaining about it.

I know that they have a lot more story-content planned and whether or not they get to release it will depend completely on how well the game is received. Hopefully the lack of a progressive story will not hurt them enough to prevent them from making story content years from now.

Finally, I’m a convert. I’ve always been 100% solo/co-op player, and have never played competitive FPS, ever. I started the Beta for the campaign…then decided to try the competitive and LOVED it. (I’m not all that great, but I couldn’t help myself in loading up another match right after finishing one…just too much fun)
I’m now more excited about being able to get back into Meltdown than I am about the Campaign. I think Gearbox is hoping that there will be a lot of gamers like me. Borderland lovers who come for the Campaign…but stay for the the Competitive.

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I could type those exact same words in reference to myself. Never played PvP I liked (the closest would perhaps be the PvP in City of Heroes and I did get a certain amount of satisfaction from my limited exposure to Aion, but never something I really sought out in a meaningful way). Never played a competitive shooter.

Oh, and nice Kenshin avatar, btw.

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Adding a story doesn’t change the core game play. And everyone and their grandma know the game is going to focus on PVP over PVE. No one plays the story in a fps as much as they play MP. During the beta most people played the story a few times and just played meltdown or incusion. Like saying we play COD cuz the story is so immersive lol.

They don’t plan to add characters and maps like a normal moba? Dear god, if they do I hope they add them for free, I am about sick of the gaming industry nickel and diming people with DLC.

Difference being the story here is emersive, also funny. Oh, and set for 5 player co op. It isn’t a crappy tack on like CoD (are we allowed mocking other games).

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The first 5 characters are free. After that noone knows, but GBX is awesome. The only paid dlc is packs with a new pve level and skins/taunts. As far as more pvp maps, I haven’t heard if they are paid or not.

Actually so far all characters are “free” (no money to pay),: you have 25 released so far, 5 will be revealed at launch.
Some characters are choosable right at start of the game (CommandRank 0) and many characters will have unlock-requests, like “reach CR10, play 5 times as faction “A”, win X games as character X” and so on.

This way some characters are harder to unlock. Its more like you gain characters in the MassEffect3-multiplayer. (Without the package-buying-thingy)

Maybe there´ll be more characters as DLC (like they did with Gaige & Krieg in BL2) but thats only a maybe.

I think only the story packs are gonna be sold as DLC. Everything PVP side will be free, with unlock conditions for the additional characters after they’re added in.

My kingdom for a buff to Attikus!

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