The Secrets of Whiskey and the Foxtrot

Battleborn Battleborn Competitive Multiplayer Discussion
#7

True, but accuracy decreases the damage dropoff of your shots as they travel. That’s what the ACOG scope really gives. Not just the ability to hit with precision, but to do more damage WHEN you hit from further away.

Now, I’m not discounting what you and Masterblizak feel with WF. It’s just a different way of playing him from how I do. :slight_smile: I’m not a fan of the run-and-gun game, because it puts you far closer than you need to be for a kill. That’s what my Ghalt is for :slight_smile: Whiskey, I hover a bit further back than OM< but way less than Marquis or Toby, so I can fill that backline striker position, without needing to always HIDE for it. :slight_smile

#8

I’ve tested many builds on Whiskey even after i reached the master 2 month ago. And running Attack Speed and Crit dmg, is really powerfull on him i usually use his legendary and Vow of Zealous Fury. Which means around +30% attack speed and it’s wonderfull, you can fire as fast as if it was automatic

I’ve tested Recoil Reduction and i don’t like it, i can control the recoil without any problem on PC so recoil reduction is useless on him (for me).
As third Item Heliophagic Googles ( is pretty nice on him as you can crit easily)

So my build is :

Galaharic Gun Grease
+21% +15% = 36% Reload Speed
-14% Recoil
+15% Attack Speed

Vow of Zealous Fury
+8.40% +8.40% = 16.80% Attack Speed
+7.14% Crit Damage

Heliophagic Goggles
+11.90% Crit Damage
+5.04% Attack Speed
Blind on Crit every 5sec

= 36% Reload Speed, 36.84% Attack Speed and 19% Crit damage

Slow on grenade at level 1 and Swiss Cheese at level 2 for 15% more damage (25% soon) and the 4burst at level 7

And btw Attack damage with a Symbiotic Gauntlet is also really good as it stacks greatly with his +25% damage passive…
For PVE Chrono Key = Spam Grenade and Ultimate (before the nerf it was perma ult xD)

#9

aahhhh, there it is. I’m playing on the PS4 :slight_smile: not the PC. :slight_smile: One day, sony and MS will just start using mice and keyboards and join the master race. :slight_smile: Till then we can only dream.

Also, I just did a dyno-test of WF with a pure attack speed build…and it’s bad. :slight_smile: Alright, when you FIND the new rhythm of the bursts, WF can pump out damage. But you still have to get within Ghalt ranges to make it shine. If I’m going that route, I’d rather have someone with more HP, a trap to drop and stun, and a hook to yank you back in.

Again, this ISN’T saying you’re playing wrong. It’s just not my preferred playstyle with Whiskey.

#10

He might have gotten a bit to much love, but hey its fun to kill any tank in the game just because they looked at you funny.

#11

I may go ACOG scope after looking at the updated gear, check this out lol

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#12

Son of a

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#13

Where’s that from? o:

#14

@mzealley: Random Drop from Loot Packs (UPR Faction Pack) :wink:

Tertiary Effect was ‘Stack -1.75% Recoil with each shot. Max 10 stacks.’ before the patch. A definite improvement.

#15

UPR loot pack, that combined with Vow Of Zealous Fury and Whiskeys legendary is killing =w=

Edit:

Heres what im using, in pve atleast, probably gonna lose the vow of zealous fury for a shard gen or something unsure right now
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#16

whats the best guide to use in terms of build?

#17

I would go

  1. left
  2. left
  3. preference (i choose right)
  4. Middle
  5. middle
  6. middle
  7. Prefrence/depending who your up against
  8. Preference
  9. Preference
  10. Depends who you’re up against

I always run reload speed no matter what. Sometimes I’ll run some shield pen with a Jennerit Epic crit item or sometimes I’ll run regen and attack damage. I don’t think he needs attack speed anymore because of his buff. You can alrdy fire is gun fast enough.

#18

If you SHOOT a shard, rather than run over it, it counts as a kill and kicks up your damage CONSIDERABLY.

How certain are you of this? I noticed today that it is not activating his health regen from the level 5 mutation.

#19

Worked for me last night

#20

It only works on big shards as far as I know

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#21

So if you dont play him like OM what do you do? Im still lost on what exactly is this guys role. Whats his role for a team.

#22

I use him as a backfield striker. With his rifle, he can respectably poke from range. With a lot of recoil reduction, he can crit from those ranges, and put on some serious hurt. I close in, only when I want the kill. If I see someone asleep or out of position, I get close, pop my grenades that slow and burn, and burst the down. If it’s someone hard to kill, I’ll pop Scrap Cannon first, for a little extra damage on my shots. I save his ult, for when someone is either trying to kill me or another teammate. rig it at 10th level to go right through shields, and no one will suspect they’re dying…well, till they’re dead. :slight_smile:

The difference between him and OM, is that OM can’t trade. He can’t sit there and slug it out with someone to push them onto the backfoot. If he gets the jump on them, OM can secure the kill usually. But if he GETS jumped, he has to stealth out or hope for a trick play or external reversal. Whiskey CAN stay in, and force the reversals himself. Tag someone with scrap cannon, bump your assault rifle damage up and they’ll generally beat feet long before you do. And that’s when you hit them with the nades in the nads, and drop em. :slight_smile:

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#23

whats your gear? I have 30% recoil reduction, 30% reload speed and 14% cc reduction

#24

What Whiskey excels at is applying pressure and kill participation. He has more accuracy than mike so he plays more like a cross between mike and marquis. He also differs from mike in that he has an early slow, and has way more single target burst (even more so with his recent buffs). Mike can burst, but it requires the enemy to either not be intelligent to walk out of his Aoe’s or they are locked in place. Whiskey at level 5 also gets the ability to bounce back from being harassed out of lane whereas mike might have to teleport back to base or find a healer.

He is a good counter to tanks and can reverse pressure on snipers. He is definitely weaker to flanking than mike is, but is more capable of bursting down high priority targets as his dps is split between his skills where as Mike only has his grenade before 5. That is how I would consider his play diferent from mike.

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#25

The only thing I would disagree on is that Mike can hip fire just like Cal or Melka. He’s not as good, but this gives him more mobility while fighting than WH imo. I won’t say he’s better at closing range skirmishes because I suck with whiskey in pvp, but he’s definitely able to stay more mobile and do damage.

#26

I think whiskey can hip fire just as well as Om, so there is that.