There are only 6 sirens in the universe because... (FIGURED... possibly...)

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#21

Your love for Dr. Ted is both amazing and disturbing. I commend you for it.

#22

Well whoops.

To be fair we had to overthink to get here to begin with.
So anyway, I love this theory!

Now to explain why the Eridians apparently abandoned their precious “weapons.” Sirens are people. That means freewill. If they were to truly be utilized at full potential you would think there would be an information gene or something in Sirens. Something that triggers “purpose
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#23

I’m trying to forget anything about the canceled borderlands mmo for China. Mostly because it looks like it was a reboot/retheme for China. So I don’t consider it canon at all. It looked like a retelling of Borderlands 1. It can’t exist in the same universe as our Borderlands series. Oh. ANd I’m going to guess that Eridians might have created humanity and therefore latent but limited and rare superpowers would make a lot of sense.

#24

I’d honestly bet it wasnt so much abandonment or humanity created as a science experiment - i really truly believe the Eridians are all but extinct and done in by their own creations. Frankenstein story to the max!

#25

Except for that one Eridian we saw on Elpis
?

But it’s true. They had an impressive civilization, and now, they all seemed to have vanished. Very odd.
They probably tried and failed at playing God, though they did successfully manage to lock up a few of the really nasty baddies. Or could some be on the lose? Hmm


#26

I don’t think so. I don’t see why 6 eridians would have stayed alive for millions/milliards of years and why would they lend their powers to human females(geez, haven’t they seen shit feminists have done to the race from history books?). Anyway there are tons of eridians out there as far as I know, unless you mean to say that the ones guarding the Destroyer’s vault and the vault on that moon(and also ones inside of the Vault of the Traveller from Tales) were cybernetic, robots or something like that.

#27

Where in Borderlands epoch have you seen “tons of eridians out there”? Guardians aren’t Eridians.

My former theory was that upon Atlas opening a vault, something triggered that caused some sort of telepathic link with the species who opened it. As far as I know, only humans have last come into contact with Eridian tech since their downfall. However though, my thoughts on the theory has changed, though we could say the above belief is still relevant.

#28

Then what do eridians look like? Game is full with “guardian” statues, so there should be eridian statues too then.

#29

If you’ve played TPS, you know what the Eridians look like! (and they do kinda look like the statues and the Guardians)

#30

Do you mean the “Watcher” thing? Doesn’t seem different from “guardian” to me, I believe that it’s the same species beneath that fancy armor.

#31

The Guardians are described in TPS at one point as being biomechanical robots. The only live Eridian as such appears to be the one that appears with Zarpedon on Helios and then, at the very end, interrupts Lilith’s little party for Athena. I don’t know whether the Sentinel counts, given the two forms that comes in, and I’m not sure about the Opha (sp) variants either. It makes sense that the Eridians would make their robots in their own image though.

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#32

F***. I just found this.

Based on how I’m interpreting this, Sirens have always been a natural guardian force of good. This means that it’s unlikely Sirens wiped out their creators.
And thus the mystery remains. What the **** happened to the Eridians?

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#33

Lilith’s Origins comic - they did absolutely fantastic on it. However it does specifically say that some sirens stray from their paths - And that only as long as the legends go have sirens been really “good” which i don’t necessarily see as the full interpretation of it. That old woman passes like a page later. lol whoops.

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#34

Maybe they encountered dangerous aliens out there in the universe that tried to destroy things and perhaps the Eridians were only capable of capturing/holding those destructive beings/weapons in prisons. Maybe one of those creatures was capable of wiping out most Eridians and managed to do just that and it too got destroyed along with most of the remaining Eridians?

And I had an odd thought that sort of blew my mind. That perhaps the Eridians are from another dimension/mirror universe. They built gates to access our universe and those gates tended to appear on planets due to gravity/mass or intention. So then when we open vaults we’re actually opening portals to their dimension. But then, horrible things took over the gates on their side? Over time they could have seeded the siren capabilities into our species knowing that at some point they would be needed to defend against the inevitable doomsday creatures.

This sort of idea has been proposed about the possible alien visitors to our real Earth world. (that maybe there aren’t aliens that could reach Earth in our universe due to distance, but they might be able or more likely to visit us via dimensional travel).

#35

My theory is that there are 6 supernatural “souls” whose carries siren powers, but are compatible only with intelligent species and female gender. Once carrier dies the soul seeks out to reborn along with new intelligent female baby. In other words, if it’s about taking power from eridians then they have to be long dead already.

However, there’s been one thing which have been in my mind for a long time. If it’s the case for sirens, then wouldn’t it be entirely possible that it’s the same case with Destroyer? What if the tentacle monster we saw was a low quality host with very low mobility and intellect, hence the reason why eridians were able to seal him him in vault? And now when we have killed the “Destroyer”, the soul now is on loose looking for a new host and maybe already is reborn. Now we’d have problem of someone literally inheriting power not just to manipulate time and space, but power to destroy worlds and it won’t end just by killing the new host
 You’d have to seal him again to ensure that the power doesn’t pose threat to the Universe anymore.

edit: Damn dem grammar mistakes, fixed some too obvious ones.

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#36

So, having played through Vorago Solitude and Tycho’s Ribs last night, I couldn’t help noticing how many of the eternal Dahl soldiers’ attacks are similar to siren powers. There’s phase-walking, what appears to be scorn (slag balls), and the flying ones have siren-like wings while zapping anything that gets within range of their “sphere” of whatever it is. These guys (from the voices, they’re all male) clearly underwent some change as a result of the eridium vapours or something, and now they have siren-like powers


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#37

hahaha. Nice. I laugh because it’s SO the Diablo series plot. In diablo 1 you beat a demon/devil named Diablo. His soul infests your body though at the end. In Diablo 2 you play someone seeking out who you played in Diablo 1. In Diablo 3 it changes up a little bit but still you have Diablo invading another body and you have the idea of trapping demons in “magical” prisons as you beat them.

But Borderlands has imitated many Diablo aspects along the line so it wouldn’t surprise me all that much. And it’s rather neat.

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#38

Just worker ants to the siren queen bees


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#39

It’s the dwarves from elderscrolls all over again. Destroyed by their own creations.

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#40

Prettymuch yeah.