Thread derailment posts here please!

Thank you kindly, but the thanks need only extend so far as I coincidentally came across this earlier and it happened to be relevant to that topic at hand

On the interest of thread purity, anyone have thoughts on the proposed sequel to Pacific Rim?

I want more daytime combat and cleaner editing

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Looking forward to it. I liked the first one. The concept is cool. and I agree with you. Lets have some light on the battles. lol more visuals!

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There are a few talking heads in the media who constantly complain when a new word is added to the dictionary, but these people are typically very out of touch with how language actually works: as you say, it’s immensely malleable and constantly developing.

The British standard, ā€˜received pronounciation’ typically embodied by the BBC (though they are attempting to diversify) is actually spoken by a tiny fraction of British people. The idea that there is a ā€˜Queen’s English’ is one of the great lies of our education system in the UK. People speak very differently, yet we promote a ā€˜correct’ version of language. Language is just what people use. There’s no right version.

That said, to be fair to broadcasters, RP and standard English are very useful for communication. I’m sure @Tokesy97 agrees that his accent is impossible to understand. :smile_cat:

The issue of English across the globe is a really interesting one because from one perspective it’s a really useful lingua franca (like Chinese, basic English, the bits derived from Anglo-Saxon, is very easy to pick up); but it can also be seen as a British imperial (and these days American) imposition. We gave the world English, well that’s a gift and it’s useful, but it’s also a big cultural intrusion. The way it’s been developed and changed by the people subjected to this language is all the more brilliant - a way of resistance!

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This is where i strayed with your remark. I don’t think of it as an intrusion. That is subjective to the person’s perspective and hard to say one way or the other in general terms. This could be a matter of semantics. :wink:

The article that post was referencing was interesting in its own right, of you ha e a few moments to spare I’d like to see your perspective on it as one who is directly experiencing the change

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Awe… :neutral_face:

Well, it is an issue of perspective, but it’s one voiced by a lot of postcolonial nations (rather than my opinion - I’m neutral on the issue). Language is about practical communication but it’s also about identity, and that’s led to a cultural dilemma: English is very useful for successful international relations of all levels, but it also means abandoning one’s mother tongue for one brought by longstanding political oppressors.

To give the example of Ireland, there is ongoing resentment about how the British treated the Irish language through our colonisation, not least in the military’s ā€˜standardisation’ of Irish placenames into bastardised English translations. So when they became an independent nation there was an attempt to revive Irish, putting it back on roadsigns, teaching it in schools, the new Irish constitution listed it as the country’s main language. The trouble was, that was completely unrealistic (Irish isn’t dead but hasn’t been a first language in the majority of Ireland for a very long time), and Irish isn’t very useful when it comes to international relations.

So there’s a tension between the desire to have a language which defines their independent identity as a nation, but also the reality that English is what most people speak, and that it’s advantageous to do so. As I understand it this is a sentiment shared in many postcolonial nations.

Will have a look!

Apologies, big family thing happened in the early AM and in off today so I’m allowing myself a session of uncharacteristic day drinking before resuming normal activities tomorrow,

My reread didn’t seem to be entirely on point so I deferred to deletion :slight_smile:

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I have to say FunkJunkie. I like your vernacular. You and Hattie express yourselves very well. I feel smarter communicating with the likes of you two. lol I am laughing. But that is because of my low intelligence. :blush:

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thanks, i enjoy writing as a cathartic exercise
I cen been accused you coming across are as haughty or condecendning but bit it’s just an excerise in trying to make the English langurs shine in he ways it can

As a side fro some of the less acriculate folks who come through and post internet typically outrage stuff, I rather enjoy this little group of rather brainy types that occupy this section of the boards.

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I couldn’t agree more. :blush:

Edit: It occurred to me that the ā€œbest user of Englishā€ isn’t even in on this conversation. What say the, good friend? @Piemanlee

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For realsies, this forum is one of the nicest places on the internet. Even when @Gulfwulf is in a thread. :grin: :kissing_heart:

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@Gulfwulf is welcome here. I like Gulf. :innocent:

@hattieinduni and her shenanigans are also welcome here. lol

and again, where is @Piemanlee ? I thought he was back?

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LMAO… :joy:

That’s awesome. lol

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Come on kurtdawwwg, don’t sell yourself short my man. You seem like a very intelligent individual. Plus we have the same sense of humor seems like, which makes you cool in my book. :+1: see I can’t even quote reply correctly, I’m the dumbass apparently. Something went crazy somewhere. Lol

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Dude! You and I are brothers from a different Mother. :wink:

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Any man that would agree to fly cross country to eat pie at my funeral I consider my brother… Lol! Everyone else reading this will definitely be curious of the above statement.

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What did you say? All I heard was the sound of jealousy.

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