I did some I may have been a little higher level but I went back to my regular playthrough and turned on mayham mode and did some challenges and stuff got to level 40 went back with better guns and such it helped but not against anotied or badass foes they still rip me apart unless I hop in iron bear and guy shot them with my mini guns and hell still takes like five mins to take just one down with iron bear and me going at them I feel they may be bugged or just overpowered

Honestly I suggest playing mayhem in normal mode til level 50 and getting some gear then trying tvhm. I didnt have the bug so I couldnt go mayhem during tvhm and cheesed all the way through it

Ya I haven’t made it to sanctuary for the second time yet to see if it is bugged or not I was just going to do tvhm then mess with mayham after that witch would make sense make it an one time unlock and then upgrade it through tvhm and for people who fond it easy could have turned in on instantly and got there challenge and others can wait for it till they are ready

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I just leveled to 50 with mayhem on normal mode and got some decent gear then switched to tvhm but then I didnt have access to it in sanctuary like everyone else

Then I only have ten levels to go so I guess I’ll go back and finish leveling and then return to my tvhm or they fix it so instead of being on your level they put them a level or two below you for a fighting chance unless you have mayham on then they should be on par with you

At the end of normal or tvhm I’m pretty sure they both scale to your level. But the reason I suggest staying in normal so you can get some gear that compliments your playstyle to assist tvhm

Ya I’ll just go max out in normal mayham 1 and find some good gear plus I’ll have to learn to start using more element guns I like never do so that may be the problem there too

Yes elements are needed. Normal introduces elements but nobody really takes advantage. Element vs weakness and dot makes elemental guns top tier in most cases

I agree they are needed I’ll have to adapt