Yes, that too. Wonderlands in the short term, other games in the long term. It feels strange they haven’t said anything. Early on in the life of BL3, we had various different roadmaps and posts saying the changes to expect in the long term, all on here. After Mayhem 2.0 was so poorly received, they listened and then promised and delivered extensive changes. You would think they would take the same approach with this game…

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Umm, guessing you took those screenshots early in the AM? Because it’s already 10× that amount now. K6 is streaming for 600+ right now (930am cst) by himself.

Not arguing that TTW doesn’t have issues, but saying that it’s a problem that no one is streaming pre-dawn is kind of odd. Twitch numbers tend to be low pre-dawn in the US.

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The only people who care about this are the game’s producers and they have seemingly abandoned these forums.

Never mind, Twitch views for TTW about to go in the toliet. After today’s hotfix, K6 going back to B3 for a while. He’s the last sizable streamer running TTW.

Matt cox has made a reply to a Twitter post directed at him xD
That’s about it

I quit watching Twitch streams when GB refused to fix Echocast

What changed your mind within an hour?

Honestly I think a lot of people who watch don’t even care about the game at this point and only watch for K6 or joltz

When I made the first post, TTW Twitch views were just over 1K, of which K6 was 60%+. If he lays off TTW for a while, views will drop significantly in the morning hours.

So, simple math brought about the change.

Too short, too repetitive, too easy. Not surprised it’s not doing well on Twitch. Though I suppose anything could be made interesting if the streamer themselves is good at what they do.

They tried… They just made a mess of the game and only thing that would have been able to fix it was to remove M2.0 and start over…

For this game… The next 3 DLC need to be better than any dlc they released, otherwise its an other nail in the coffin

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Kind of crazy how quickly the DLC quality has plummeted. The first few Borderlands games had some of the best DLCs I’ve ever seen in games, with a few forgivable missteps. But after the first two BL3 DLCs the value you get from them has dropped dramatically ( I haven’t played TTW yet, I’m just going by what I’ve heard).

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mabe dont intentionally choose a time where all of USA is sleeping XD
borderlands community is pretty focused on few big streamers

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still don’t get why people judge a game’s popularity based on streaming views :joy:

i see it like, the more people are actualy playing the game, the less people have time to watch other people play the game (still can’t see why i would watch somebody play the game instead of playing myself)

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yea its a weird flex that is constantly brought up in the diablo 2 vs 3 debate
d2 usually wins XDDDDDD

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i do watch D2 streamers (for build guidance and stuff)
but never watch anybody just play the (any) game :joy:

Well i usually just watch for the streamer/community/discussions
I don’t really care about watching the gameplay

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Sorry for trolling in advance…
But where was this even considered a standalone game EVER and in whos brain popped this one out?
I seriously didn’t give 1 year for TTW prior release, and I still stand by my feeling of being terrible bad idea to make a DLC as a standalone game, MEANWHILE you could have made at least 1-2 years of additional content for Borderlands 3 which is your main franchise game?

People should be fired for such decisions, I say it, even if it sounds cruel. It was one of their worse decision after that unspeakable bad game they already shut own, you know which one I don’t even speak its name ever anymore in fear of death coming for me and taking my soul.

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BL3 was affected by the pandemic pretty much directly (in terms of post-release support). It’s difficult to say if TTW was or not; it was released later, but likewise, the pandemic went on for a solid two years and (speaking from a job market perspective) hiring practises are still catching up.

These are things we’re only ever going to be able to speculate on. Short of a (2K-approved) public statement, everyone who knows anything will be covered by an NDA.

I think people forget, though, that we’re living in pretty unprecedented times (in terms of modern history). But even accounting for that, the reception to TTW’s first DLC has been pretty universally-dismal.

We don’t appreciate Battleborn slander around here, pard’ner.

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Amen brother( or sister or something else). I like the Harry Potter like, name that should never be spoken! I will never again speak it’s name.
Could tiny Tina have been better? You betcha! Could it have been worse? Well not in my opinion. The original Tina dlc was in my estimation the pinnacle of dlc’s. I sort of suspected this wonderlands game would be disappointing. To me it turned out as expected. Again to me it seemed that the BL3 season pass two showed me that the imagination pool at Gearbox had dried up. None of that was worth my money.
I wonder how many bad games we’ll blame on the flu?
Anyway with all the BL games here at home, i ought to be happy. I’ll couch co-op play them and save my money.