Two-fer Luck cannon only two shots before reload with FFOB?

[charrisx (If you want it dead, you want a Jakobs.)]

When you use a two-fer, even if a single bullet would have killed a mob, you will still shoot 2 in his direction, and both will hit and combine their damage value (at least visually) think of it as a really silly shotgun with 2 pellets. the excess pellets that hit over the enemy’s health will not be useful, they will not go somewhere else.

That would be true for sure, but I still spray and pray, and that would cause the same ammo consumption with each gun regardless.

But what I’m trying to understand from this is, the two fer’s bullet that may not hit the mob wont be able to activate trick shot, while all the Dastardly’s bullets are still able to? Thus causing a slightly higher ammo usage in that regard? Still trivial though really and imo still worth using Two Fer over Dastardly for the dps increase.

[DeputyChuck (Sheriff)]

That would be true for sure, but I still spray and pray, and that would cause the same ammo consumption with each gun regardless.

nope.
Let’s say that you rely entirely on trick shot, for the sake of argument.
facing mobs that require only one bullet to kill
there are 3 of them.

With a dastardly, each bullet comes out at a different time, so if you’ve killed an enemy with the previous bullet, the next one will ricochet to the next enemy. you will need to pull the trigger 3 times to kill all 3.

But if that previous shot was with a two-fer, both bullets will come out at the same time and will both hit the first target, even if only one of them was needed (which will be just as dead)
you will ALSO need to pull the trigger 3 times to kill all 3, but you will have spent 6 ammo doing so, and you can’t do anything about that since bullets are paired.

Obviously it’s a rather extreme example, but the principle is still true: half of your targets will require an odd number of bullets to kill (on average) so you will “waste” a bullet every 2 kills.

[charrisx (If you want it dead, you want a Jakobs.)]

Obviously it’s a rather extreme example, but the principle is still true: half of your targets will require an odd number of bullets to kill (on average) so you will “waste” a bullet every 2 kills.

Makes sense. So its a lot of what Trick Shot will help recover wasted/badly aimed shots. Still though Two Fer is better so long as your not in a prolonged fight with no way to recover ammo.

[DeputyChuck (Sheriff)]

Oh yeah: I still think that Two-fer is supperior. That extra ammo consumption is but a minor annoyance overall if you play right (the LC already has stupidly good ammo efficiency), but it does have a non-negligible impact: it does consume more.

[charrisx (If you want it dead, you want a Jakobs.)]

Oh yeah: I still think that Two-fer is supperior. That extra ammo consumption is but a minor annoyance overall if you play right (the LC already has stupidly good ammo efficiency), but it does have a non-negligible impact: it does consume more.

Glad I’m not the only one who thinks its worth it

I’ve never really had any ammo problems with the Two Fer though. I even use it in my video of the Badass Holodome Round, and still never ran out of ammo, or scrounged for ammo in any chests. And that’s one of the most prolonged strenuous events in this game.

[ckenndestroy]

Wow, thanks you guys! Figured I would wait a few days to get an answer. Sounds like I’ll stick with the two-fer fer (ha) now, and see if I can come up with a Dastardly in the future for mobs.

[DeputyChuck (Sheriff)]

IMO it’s a waste of time. Stick with your 2-F. The difference in damage and ammo consumption is small, and the difference to the cramps in your fingers is big

[charrisx (If you want it dead, you want a Jakobs.)]

and the difference to the cramps in your fingers is big

This is the most important informations ever, I have perma Jakobs Cramp from too many Eclipse killings =X

[onlyin_kansas (Just call me kansas)]

@ckenndestroy what grip does yours have? probably the biggest factor on whether to re-roll it in the grinder.

[onlyin_kansas (Just call me kansas)]

on another note, just did some mobbing with the two-fer variant, i can feel the DPS increase for sure, but i also had less ammo left compared to the dastardly. nisha has enough DPS in her trees, so i’ll stick to the dastardly for mobbing, but when im fughting a boss, its the two-fer for sure.