Toby is listed as cute; what exact play style is that? I’ve completed the mastery for s&a and played most of my games as the character. I didn’t need some know it all to tell me stuff I already knew. Sure it’s not the weakest ult by far but it doesn’t fit the character and I was comparing it’s low damage because it’s fire and forget but it also locks you out of 2 other abilities. I apologize for having a issue with a ability that works kinda wonky. The ability should be good because it’s one you have to level up and gearbox set the precedent by having ones that are extraordinarily useful, semi useful, and damn near useless when if you’re going to make someone level up half way it should be a game changer. Doesn’t matter anyway, overwatch killed what was left of the playerbase
Ah yes, some know it all. You’re just full of fun responses, aren’t you? You opened a discussion about the ability. I listed a bunch of reasons why it’s not “Ultimate poooooo” because, well, that’s sort of what you do in a discussion about an ability.
In fact, it does fit the character and is not damn near useless. And it -IS- a game changer, just not some insta-win when you’re 1v1. Since it’s a team game, that sort of works out well. The entire S&A Skillset is full of harassing abilities and utility functions which is exactly how Tag Team works. It’s a fantastic chunk of aoe damage that punishes players if they are foolish enough to be there at the end and allows for multiple functions through placement and boomerangs on the same or other targets.
Buffing it would be flat out silly given how many tricks they already have up their sleeves and the fact that they have quite a few survival tools in their kit. The only change that you could really make an argument for on Tag Team, would be the ability to cancel out of it through a second button press a la Stealth Strike. That way you can trigger the knock up quicker at the expense of the extra damage or bring Aurox back so you can stealth/fetch in a pinch.
They aren’t a perfect character, but the issues are mostly in helix choices like many other characters. But there you go, another novel from the know it all. Because it’s not okay for someone to disagree with you and explain why, right?
Although the ult definitely has its uses, the significant drawbacks posed from Aurox not being tied to Shayne throughout the duration is very significant. For a move that has one of the largest cooldowns in the game (65 seconds), it should be a bit more useful (especially after the significant stealth nerfs she just received). The drawbacks for those who don’t know are as follows:
- The ult will disappear if Shayne is stunned or knocked up or silenced.
- Shayne’s primary attack is reduced by 50%, and the glitch that occurs with Aurox returning to Shayne will halt her primary combo.
- Lastly and most importantly, Shayne cannot use any skills or go back to base throughout the duration.
Having it able to be canceled like Stealth Strike makes a lot of sense as it would solve pretty much all the issues that the Ult has in a relatively fair way. Definitely the best suggestion I have seen by far.
I actually agree with you S&A needs that pull included by default…its an ULT its pointless when people can just run away from it
I tend to save the ult as an exit maneuver as shayne gains increased speed without aurox for a while. I also use it as a blockade if an enemy is trying to escape. I tend to dominate the field as her and become OP at lv 10 since her ult becomes powerful by itself.
Also, people can run away from ambras, oscars, isics,phoebes, marqs, alanis (if it’s not on you), caldarius if you’re able to get far away from him,and Attikus ults. Think i’m missing some but you get the point.
Ambra Ult is just as bad as S&A but you cant run away from Phoebes ult because her ult can be used in combination with her Teleport which slows people…Oscar Mike has the element of surprise witg his ult so yeah you can run but if you Dont see it coming you taking damage…
Cant compare Marquise ult to S&A ult 2 way 2 different things…comparing a static AOE ult to one where you have complete control over? Cant avoid a well aimed Blind blast…
His bindle blast comes towards you at a slow rate, i find it very easy to dodge.
Its mobile tho Marquise can hit you with that anywhere…its not a static
ult like S&A
John-Cena
July 5His bindle blast comes towards you at a slow rate, i find it very easy to
dodge.
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redhoodrobin92
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Ambra Ult is just as bad as S&A but you cant run away from Phoebes ult
because her ult can be used in combination with her Teleport which slows
people…Oscar Mike has the element of surprise witg his ult so yeah you
can run but if you Dont see it coming you taking damage… Cant compare
Marquis…