Versus matchups can be TOO ridiculous/unfair! Grouped vs Randoms... ugh

Battleborn Battleborn Competitive Multiplayer Discussion
#1

I love PvP however just for example I only have friends to play with on the weekends so I’m doing randoms and the last 7 out of 10 games I’ve played were me on a team with total randoms (no one on my team was AT ALL grouped with friends) versus teams with 4-5 grouped friends. In 7 out of 10 games every enemy team had a minimum of 4 grouped up friends. In addition to that, their levels were generally higher than ours sometimes to the point of absurdity (i.e my team had everyone at level 8 or below except for me while the other teams were 15+ and even in the high to mid 20s).

Every game I get in where I’m in a complete random versus a group of 4-5 friends, my team gets DEMOLISHED for obvious reasons. It makes it even worse when it’s obvious we’re going to lose and my team won’t even consider surrendering… a few games my team didn’t have a single kill when the game ended… still didn’t surrender.

Is PvP even worth playing if you don’t have a group of friends to play with? It gets super annoying to get ■■■■■ the vast majority of games. Now, keep in mind when I get in a random versus another random it’s EXTREMELY fun and I do very well. In those games I tend to have the most kills or near it and if I play as Miko we have a hard time getting killed aside from when people get crazy and run off to do something stupid. It’s competitive and I often win those games but man… getting destroyed by grouped up friends who are all higher levels in most of the games I get into is just silly and it makes the game completely lame. How am I supposed to get command rank ups in a timely fashion when I get flat out ■■■■■ in most games? I can put MUCH MORE time into the game than players who play with friends and they’ll level MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH faster than me.

I’d like to just play story mode until my friends are online but I can’t play on advanced or hardcore mode without friends… normal is boring. Some of the escort levels I can’t solo on Advanced difficulty…

WTF!!!

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#2

Yes, I will play the game solo with randoms as well as with my fiancée.

Groups isn’t really the issue IMO, it’s communication. It’s a real shame that people don’t use the in-game comms (and I’m guilty of it too) to talk to the rest of the team, shout out what’s happening (“sending giant minion down the left”) and so on. I might just make an effort to use comms more when playing with randoms, you never know it might catch on…

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#3

Yes, communication is a big problem. Even when I talk on my mic or type out what’s going on or what’s needed pretty much everyone ignores it. I swear, most people in my random groups want to just mindlessly attack the other players as opposed to strategize… gets annoying.

4-5 friends who are communicating versus 5 randoms who say nothing to each other will win every time.

#4

I’ve tried out Solo PvP for the first time in 2 days…and doing fine… except, after 2 games I got spammed by invites from the people in those solo games… so it wasn’t solo anymore, it was duo, trio, quadro… etc :smiley:

#5

I’ve only solo’d and find most of the matches fair. Every once in a while I’ll get completely stomped, but it’s too far from a regular occurrence to be considered a problem for me.

Some of these “teams” obviously spent more time in story mode too. One of them had all lvl 20ish players and characters like Deande and Kleese. Myself and a group of randoms mopped the floor with them. They didn’t know how to keep Kleese from getting body blocked and the Deande couldn’t figure out how to do any dmg.

#6

I also find it odd that people are ripping on the matchmaking. I am almost 100% sure that the game already tries to match premades against premades. Every time I play in a group I VERY rarely get matched against all solos. I don’t think I’ve ever been put against a full stack when solo queuing unless I got matched up with another 3 man or 4 man group on my side.

This is just my experience of course, but it still seems odd that so many people are reporting otherwise.

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#7

Could be different platforms, different matchmakings?

on PC here, and I have your exact experience.

#8

I’m playing on PC and nearly every game I get into has at least a group of 3 friends grouped up whereas I’m on a totally random non-grouped at all team.

#9

In my opinion? No. Unfortunately.

I end up playing solo all the time as a casual player. I have yet to get into a PvP match where my teammates knew how to play the objective. At all. All they do is run around trying to take out the other team players. Even Capture seems to complicated for them.

#10

This may just be me having a weird experience with the matchmaking, but I’ve been having more success solo queuing than with pre-mades. I win more often when I’m solo than when I go in with 3+ people. I’ve lost with a full pre-made vs a group of solo players and won against pre-mades as a group of solo players.

Unless the pre-made knows what they’re doing and works well together, and at this early stage they rarely do, they’re basically just a group of randoms yelling their confusion into whatever VOIP their using (if they’re even using one).

#11

Yup. As an example, when a strong damage hero dies on my team who can kill a thrall near the respawn point super quickly I sometimes tell them to kill the thrall on their way back to the fight… NEVER happens. Take friggin 15 seconds to spawn a thrall for us for goodness sake. But nooooo… they need to get back to the fight asap so they can mindlessly try to kill people… objectives, buildables, strategy by damned! BE DAMNED I SAY! DAMMMNNNNEEEED!

How about on capture maps where randoms don’t even try to capture anything… I’ve seen groups basically camp one capture point the entire game because that’s where the players are. God forbid one of them break off to capture a point where no enemy players are at the time. Most capture games aren’t as bad as all that but even so randoms tend to get smashed against an organized group of friends playing. It’s literally as simple as saying “hey player x go grab point B no one is there” or “enemy incoming to point C need backup”. Farrrrrrrrr too complicated for some people.

#12

To be fair, the burden of knowledge on new players in this game is pretty harsh.

Next to nothing is really explained here.

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#13

That intro video though… I have no idea why I had to play a single player tutorial to play a multiplayer game. >.>