#22

“Huge buff” : They made 1 weapon that is sickly overpowered and as the same time a real pain to use (Yeah, I one shot everything but only after i’ve spend 1 minute shooting at a wall, and then if I die I have to restack again)

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#23

i still stand with it… the infinity (anointed) is the best weapon in the game (allways has been haha)

never run out of bullets, with fire rate increase it’s an absolute beast and with the right anointed it absolutely shreds everything :smiley:

on zane i’m using a normal infinity with increased fire rate and 100% cryo anointed… as long as there’s stuff to shoot my killskills (through mod) and skills never go down :slight_smile:

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#24

Yeah I’m with you, a good infinity with sntnl cryo100 is my go to, the dps is great because no time reloading when bullets aren’t firing, and paired with electric banjo it’s great for procing lightning chains.

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#25

Except it’s not in any top gear lists as far as I’m aware, and there’s a reason for that… There are better options.

#26

With the newest DLC, Dahl, Tediore, Maliwan, and Jakobs all got great weapons… CoV for a couple okay ones, but the manufacturer as a while gas a gimmick that limits it’s potential regardless. I don’t think Vladof got any Legendaries, at least as far as I’ve seen on 1.5 runs through it. As someone mentioned above, reverting, it at least softening the nerfs to Lyuda and ION Cannon would be a start. ION Cannon only gets used in 0 ammo build/as a FFYL weapon anymore. Lyuda is pretty much never used it top builds anymore.

#27

Wow, who cares for “top builds”
I dont even know any “top build”

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#28

basicly ion cannon is clone zanes main weapon no ammo consumption full damage its beyond awesome

#29

I get this attitude and tbh I tend to run just OK builds or good ones but ones I like but meta builds are always great to have when you just want a quick farm they have thier place and tbh my fave fl4k build is fade meta as I like snipers alot and its one of the few builds that allows it mind you I tend to swap out meta weapons most of the time to use what I want purple Dahl snipers tank man’s shield and so on so meta build but non meta weapons lol

#30

I don’t understand your fetish with the infinity.

While it’s okay-ish for some build and the right annointement, you can do so much better with pretty much most weapon in the game, and even some purple considering the “infinity” shooting pattern make it worse at scoring crits.

Especially considering Zane kill skill build have massive reload speed bonus, meaning reloading is not a massive DPS loss.

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#31

Vladof isn’t in a bad place, most of their Legendaries are good and quite a few are Top Gear material.

Jakobs is better, but I don’t think any company compares to Jakobs in terms of Legendaries.

#32

Actually nice to see jacobs shine in this game as 2 they kinda sucked

#33

I loved Jakobs in 2 (and TPS) actually. Still one of the better companies with a true Wild West feel.

Jakobs in BL3 is better than they have ever been but they really went too far with those filthy, sacrilegious elemental and fully automatic guns. :laughing:

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#34

lol funny thing is the companion is one of my favourite guns as its basicly the closest thing to an old cowboy revolver same thing goes for greed from b2 both elemental but I wanna be a cowboy so hell yeah lol

#35

depends on what you need :wink:

the infinity (like stray1 said) has great DPS because there’s no reload :wink:

this can be used by any vaulthunter to great succes (zane for example with increased fire rate keeps his mod proccing realy fast, moze can just keep firing and gaining a crapload of selfhealing and more)

it’s not on the list because of it’s low base damage (with the right build it’s actualy a beast… but it doesn’t do anything special untill you actualy build around it) allways has been that way :slight_smile:

#36

I do. I have two of Moze: one that runs MY consecutive hits build that wrecks any and all content. It’s not THE meta build that I’ve played 400 hours on, but it’s a damn close build that I’ve played 150 hours on.

Then I have my IDGAF Moze that only uses Vladof weapons and Bear Trooper or Raging Bear Coms exclusively. Which is how this topic came about. Because this build is basically the meta build, but not using meta weapons or coms, and the difference is palpable. Vladof weapons largely lack the punch of top tier gear.

#37

Dunno what others think, but im all up for a buff to vladof AR´s and Pistols across the board just like with dahl AR´s a while back. A nice bumb by 20-25% in damage would help alot. Of course there should be some exeptions. (Sickle) Vladof Snipers are good tho.

#38

I don’t know about Moze, but my Amara, FL4K, and Zane had real good experience using the Fire and Corrosive Faisors I have. The underbarrel shotgun does great damage.

#39

I’d argue Vladof ARs can make an unkillable Moze build with a Sapper COM. I made one the other day and was able to face tank Wotan in m4 TVHM with 2 players (didn’t want to wait for a 3rd and 4th). I was using a Shredifier and Dictator. The only time I was ever close to dying was when I needed to reload or Wotan jumped and landed on me.

EDIT: Forgot to mention I was the one to kill Wotan while my second died fairly quickly in the first phase of the fight.

#40

that´s the sapper tho. I can do the same with a jakobs gatling gun, and have more than double the base damage with slightly lower firerate. The sappers lifesteal is currently not capped at the max of 12%. That´s why it works so well with continued fire.

#41

Just tried a Gatling gun and a mutant both do 3-4 times the base damage and couldn’t kill much of anything compared to the Vladofs mentioned above.