I was browsing the old forums and found this and I thought it might be helpful.
PSA: The Maliwan Volcano vs. Maliwan Snider
###All credit for this goes to vinylicpuma3 from the old forums###
So there’s been alot of misinformation going around about the Maliwan Snider being completely superior to it’s legendary brother, the Volcano. Well, that is sort of true. On charater’s like zero, maya, maybe gaige, a fire Snider will generally outperform it’s Legendary brother.
However, we play Axton the commando and we have grenade Damage Bonuses! These are not to be underestimated. So let’s take a look. Shall we?
Just to prove that i’m not just citing numbers at you, here is a video that shows the comparison between all 3, but mainly the Maliwan Barrel Snider and the Volcano snipers in real time.
What’s being Tested:
There are 3 Sniper Rifles that are being tested. 1 Volcano and 2 Maliwan Sniders(1 with Dahl Barrel and 1 with a Maliwan Barrel). Each have Identical parts down to the weapons grip, stock, scope and accessory. For these tests, we will be using the Damage Prefix(So Barking) and each Sniper Rifle has a Maliwan Grip with Hyperion Stock and Scope.
All Weapons are OP8 and the test dummy was level 80. All testing is done on OP8 Difficulty.
Top Contender is always in Bold and Underlined
Plain Body Shot:
Dahl Snider: 829k
Maliwan Snider: 962k
Plain Critical Shot:
Dahl Snider: 2487k
Maliwan Snider: 2886k
Critical Shot(5/5 Impact, Metal Storm, 1 point in Expertise):
Dahl Snider: 2985k
Maliwan Snider: 3463k
At this point, we will disqualify the Dahl Barrel Snider.
Critical Shot(5/5 Impact, Metal Storm, Steady, 1 point in Expertise and Do or Die):
Maliwan Snider: 3463k
Critical Shot with BattleFront(5/5 Impact, Metal Storm, Steady, BattleFront and Sentry, 1 point in Expertise and Do or Die):
Maliwan Snider: 4329k
Leg Soldier, No BattleFront Crit Shot(10/5 Impact and Sentry, 5/5 in Metal Storm, Steady, BattleFront, 1 point in Expertise and Do or Die):
Maliwan Snider: 5011k
Exp Grenadier, No BattleFront Crit Shot(11/5 Steady, 10/5 Impact, 5/5 in Metal Storm, Steady, BattleFront, and Sentry, 1 point in Expertise and Do or Die):
Maliwan Snider: 4041k
Exp Grenadier, With Full Spec, No Battlefront, Crit Shot(Link to Spec):
Maliwan Snider: 4135k
Exp Grenadier, With Full Spec, No Battlefront. Body Shot(Link to Spec):
Maliwan Snider: 1366k
Exp Grenadier, With Full Spec, With Fire Bone of the Ancients, No Battlefront. Body Shot(Link to Spec):
Maliwan Snider: 1899k
Exp Grenadier, With Full Spec, With Fire Bone, With Bee No Battlefront. Critical Shot(Link to Spec):
Maliwan Snider: 14821k
Leg. Soldier, With Full Spec, With Fire Bone, With Bee No Battlefront. Critical Shot(Link to Spec):
Maliwan Snider: 18817k
Expert Grenadier, With Full Spec, With Fire Bone, With Bee With 23.4% Gun/Grenade Damage from BAR, No Battlefront. Critical Shot(Link to Spec):
Maliwan Snider: 17323k
Expert Grenadier, With Full Spec, With Fire Bone, With Bee With 23.4% Gun/Grenade Damage from BAR, No Battlefront. Body Shot(Link to Spec):
Dahl Snider: 4904k
Maliwan Snider: 5210k
At first glance, the Maliwan Snider does outperform the Maliwan Volcano. In the Abscence of Grenade Damage Bonus, it’s inferior on most characters like Zero, Maya, Gaige, Sal. Ultimately, I think that is why the Volcano is overlooked for the most part.
What’s also interesting about the Volcano is that it consistently outperforms the Snider when it comes to a normal Body shot without any buffs from skills, bee, fire bone, etc. What I thought was amazing was once we performed a body shot with the Expert Grenadier, Bee+Bone and BAR, the body shot damage exceeded the Snider by 4 million! Pretty nice!
As we’ve seen, the more Grenade Damage that gets added, the more powerful the volcano becomes. The weapon really comes alive once Battlefront is added to the mix. The Volcano finally gains enough grenade damage to allow it to exceed the Snider damage on a crit shot.
That said, the Expert Grenadier performed worse than the Legendary Soldier in total damage. This is because Gun damage bonuses in general trump grenade damage bonuses. Sad but true. However, headshots on the Volcano while the grenadier class mod were outperforming the Snider by 3 million damage in some cases. 2 Million while the legendary soldier was equipped.
Just adding the Bee Shield while spec’d into Steady and Do Or Die makes the weapon exceed the good ole’ Snider. This will allow you to use a variety of Class Mods and still exceed the Damage of the Snider.
The only thing that sucks about this weapon is it doesn’t come in multiple elements. If it did, I think the Volcano(or whatever Gearbox decided to call it) would definitely be more popular.
This weapon is pretty easy to acquire though. Simply beat the game and you can get your hands on one.
The Volcano is a pretty good gun, relatively easy to get and works on axton beautifully. It receives bonuses from grenade damage and once Battlefront is proc’d, it surpasses the Maliwan Snider. As I’ve said before, it’s a weapon that has high damage potential after it’s been properly buffed by skills.
Most weapons in this game are like that. Take the Infamous BeeHawk Combo, Pimps with Bore, ShamFleet with Anarchy, etc. Besides, who walks around with no spec in higher difficulties? Masochists.
That’s pretty much it. So yeah.