First of all, no offense taken. I appreciate the response. To explain how I plan to play Zane, I have focused him around kill skills, going all the way down the middle tree and down to “Old U” in his clone tree, and I did skip Duct Tape Mod in favor of Donny Brook.
With that said, I think people are over hyping the placement change between DFC and Seein Red. While yes, Seein Red being moved to a capstone is kind of unfortunate, it’s not all too bad as the only place where that is really needed would be in a tough boss fight or a raid fight where there is nothing else to kill besides the boss. Remember, DFC not only increases the effect of all kill skills you have, but basically doubles the duration of all his kill skills too, just go put a legendary reaper on krieg if you want perspective on how powerful that is.
Those two things combined I would say is more powerful during the earlier, leveling portions of the game than on-demand kill skills. And then once you do get to endgame and start fighting raid bosses, i had already figured that a kill skill build, one that allowed you on demand lifesteal, movement speed, and of course plenty of extra damage would have been the optimal choice anyway, so you’d still get the skill regardless. Perhaps if you wanted to raid with something besides the kill skill build, now you can put those points elsewhere instead of going partially down the middle tree in favor of other skills.
Finally, in comparison to other characters, Fl4k can do a lot of burst damage. Yes, their crit buffs are insane, but those only apply to criticals. They’ll have a lot of damage right off the start when it comes to huge bosses because fade away gives automatic critical hits, plus a 50% damage bonus if you go with The Power Inside, but that all goes away once your action skill runs out. A lot of their big buffs only apply when they’re in an action skill, which has a long cooldown, or after they get a kill which you cant get in raid fights (usually). They’ll likely be able to one-shot most mini bosses for sure, but raids wont go down so easy. Even with Megavore, only a 20% crit chance for something like a sniper isnt all that big, and if you use other weapons you wont get as much damage or as much synergy with Fl4k. As for Moze, she will likely be a monster in mobbing scenarios as her biggest buffs come from kill skills. However, every character can mob just fine. When it comes to raids and big bosses, she’ll have to rely on kill skills, her health being low, or her middle capstone. Of course, she’ll have her mech but that might not scale well late into the game, or at least for raid fights. It certainly could, but historically, it’s not on iron bear’s side. Zane on the other hand seems to have has just as much dps as the others, except he gets some health back from that dps and it’s more accessible to him. Plus, 2 action skills is nice.