#7

we can hope.

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#8

I’m glad we can slide because of evasiveness but given how lame the antifreeze mod is I don’t think the devs had a goal for these anointments outside of creating build variety. Unless Zane gets a new tree based around sliding and jumping, but he can somewhat do that with the current gear, or we do get a new piece of gear that can enhance slides and jumps with thrusters.

That was honestly a good approach to balance the guns in the game, but shows just how terrible their channels of communication are because most of the dozen weapons were actually not preforming as intended(like the 4th lyuda bullet) but some were right and still over preformed like the 4th crossroads bullet.
Another early example is how the anointed were immune to cryo damage when it should have only been immune to a full freeze.
I imagine a few headless chickens hold leadership positions that they shouldn’t but that’s just an opinion.

#9

I’m not sure we would agree on what ‘mostly’ means. I might say that it can be used mostly everywhere - very few places have no height difference that can be turned into a slam. Source: am a serial slammer.

That said, if you’re on PC and don’t care for slamming, I’ll take whatever horrible-yet-awesome slam-based relics that you’re all nice enough to put in the mail. :smiley:

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#10

Not saying anything until the base game and DLC’s are out is a sure-fire, guaranteed way to make sure nothing gets changed. At that point, GBX will have sold all their content and moved on… game over.

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#11

Another example, storywise:

Many have said (and I agree) that it doesn’t make sense for Lilith to give Sanctuary to Ava.

However, when she does so, she says “be ready”. Then you go to her room, and Tannis says something to the effect of “well that would mean”…and implies that Lilith knew this (or something like it) was going to happen.

So, I’m saying it’s possible that the decision did make sense to give Sanctuary to Ava --because of what Lilith (and Gearbox) know is coming next. (And if they do a good job, it’ll all make sense when to us the dust has cleared and we have all of the DLC content).

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#12

I agree with your major points here. We don’t have the major picture to look at and probably won’t have that for some time. For me, that’s okay, I’ve got plenty of things to do besides stir up nonsense on the forums.

However, It disappoints me to see streamers playing bl3 and rigorously bashing it the entire time. It sounds like a broken record at this point, “rare spawns” “better anointed gear” “this gear is trash” “was this ever tested??”

It pushes a narrative that this game is terrible. It just gives more bad press, and bad press is what’ll end the Borderlands series because you can’t make money if nobody buys it because the streaming community said it’s garbage.

Anyways, that’s my opinion, based solely on listening to streamers for a week who had over 100 viewers.

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#13

As a long time player of the series, I, for one, can comfortably say, it might be time to end it. If this is the case, it’s not because of “bad press”, it’s because of bad games. I don’t think they will end it because people continue to like, follow and obey, but from a quality perspective… it might be time.

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#14

I think you give gbx too much credit sure they might have some vague idea but so far except with the dlc alot of it has ranged from ok to poorly executed.

#15

Im genuinely amazed that someone likes slamming and Slam related relics. To choose a slam relic over Elemental Projector, Ice Breaker, Cutpruse, Snowdrift feels very odd to me. To have yourself open for an attack after that excessively long and awkward recovery period, to do miniscule damage, having to actively search for a higher ground, awkward vaulting/unvaulting mechanic screwing up the slam. The times when it looks like you should be able to slam, it just doesnt happen, maybe because you pressed the slam button too early. Only times I use slam related stuff is with a combination of Cutpurse, since it will refill your magazine (like launch pad). I can see slam as being an interesting mechanic for super casual people that dont go beyond TVHM, no mayhem. But to each their own I guess. For me slamming is an awkward, unrewarding gimmick and I personally would wish to be able to have an ingame menu where I could remove anything slam related from my droptables so I never see that stuff again. Same goes for many other legendaries like Woodblocker etc.

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#16

Depends on what you are optimizing for: killing efficiency or ‘fun’. Subjective stuff…

Also - one might not even have these other things you mention, while slam/slide relics seem be raining from the sky. Some folks play BL in “use what you find” mode, and not farm much.

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#17

The ‘abstract’ idea is what has actually been part of what I do not like about BL3 as much as the previous. Do not get me wrong, the Jackpot DLC nailed it and is my second favorite DLC behind Dragons Keep. However when it boils down to the main story my rankings go: 1) Bl2 2) BL1 3) BL3.

BL3 is a cluster and former shell of what it used to be story and humor wise. Sure they can wrap the stories up in the DLC’s, the first two games didn’t have to.
BL3 tries too hard to do two things,…
1st off is to offend nobody (except maybe streamers?)
2nd is that they tried waaaay to hard to be funny when the other games just made humor flow.

#18

It’s a very good point.

#19

I used spark plugs in Impound Deluxe to round up enemies, zap their shields and kill them quickly on M4 TVHM, as well as airborne bonus dmg anointed gear.

Also with the low gravity there the slam effect allowed me to time my descent. Which could have helped me dodge shots, but who knows, I use a Transformer.

I didn’t even get put into FFYL and I had a great time. I get that you don’t find spark plug or any other slam artifacts fun, or viable and that’s fine. I had a great time using it in and yes, in Mayhem 4 TVHM.

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#20

It’s all Claptrap’s fault. We should be hating on him. Since he set Sanctuary on fire, we had to vent the cargo hold and lost the jet packs that would have made slams great. Maybe we’ll swing back around and pick them up in a future DLC. Who knows.

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#21

The sirens have some sort of spiritual bond that can transcend time space don’t they?
Otherwise Lilith was high when she did that.

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#22

I think that any experiments that the devs want to do with interesting game mechanics in the present or future would get my vote…

They have done real good work in this regard already. Hard to find specific items through play, better to trade, but I’m not playing that record for my points…

From looking at an array of loot… I think there are so many viable play-style options even now - maybe not maximum dps but who playing M4 regularly is struggling anyway…

Many interesting variations will be brought about just by being able to assign points in, as yet, untapped skill trees…

I’d love to see ways of improving slide or slam skills with skill points on all character…

Think the title applies to everything, even the devs…

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#23

Leave Claptrap alone. He literally saved Sanctuary with his ass. The fact he caused the issue he stopped is irrelevant so no point bringing that up.

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#24

*His magnificent ass

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#25

Using slam to descent quicker is legit. Spark Plug is also the only slam relic I enjoyed using, but only in cases when enemies are yet still to spawn/appear. I can put down a couple of them and it works nicely, forgot to mention that one. But I wont use it in “active combat”. As I said, the recovery makes you vulnerable, slamming can be really awkward and time consuming depending on geography and there are much stronger M4 relics out there. I’d prefered most slam relics to be purple and not legendary, same goes for many of the guns. Too much of this stuff is quite worthless and just creates too many additional layers of RNG for loot to drop. They dilute the droptables too much making it much harder to get legitimately good relics like Elemental Projector Victory Rush for example. So if you’re going to farm Victory Rush from its dedicated loot source, you might spend dozens of hours just because of all the additional trash that has been labeled as “Legendary” even though theres nothing “Legendary” about it. Thats my main problem with it. The dilution of droptables.

#26

He did also save Pandora from the evil Handsome Jack, with his bare hands.

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