Funny you should mention those particular two. Those are my two Worst Offenders.

Edit : different idea.

We have an admin thread like Thou Shalt Not Dupe where all the dupe requests go to die. Instead, Thou Shalt Not Question the 10% Rule. Anyone who does, their post goes right into the appropriate receptacle, never to be seen again.

Edit 2 :

We could also have one called Thou Shalt Not Grouse About Pearls :laughing:

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Explain, sir.

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:wink:

There’s a thread going (I won’t link it but it’s currently active) - a person dissatisfied with pearls and suggesting that they should get a buff.

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Noted.

Alright, I don’t think I can try and farm for a better bee so I’ll have to roll with the one Axton has. Before I start the mission though I should note… at least four of the six blues given - all L28 - were of the shock variety.

  • a Protection Relic from Tannis (+17.4% Shield Cap, vendor’d – about to be)
  • a Absorb Shield from Zed(vendor’d)
  • a Tediore Shock Grenade from Scoots (vendor’d)
  • a Dahl Stopping Eel from Moxxi (GET, love that it has a Maliwan grip too)
  • a Maliwan Snider, Shock variety, from Hammerlock (for safe-keeping, since I know of the grenade damage Axton)
  • finally, a 25(???) Bandit Spinigun from Marcus, NE (vendor’d because obvious troll is obvious)

Judging by the abundance of shock weaponry the game seems to insist I must be playing as Gaige again. Cute.

Now to teabag Handsome Jack.

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My data does not support this.
I have 153 characters I’ve taken through Knuckledraggger in NVHM. I have gotten 7 lvl 0-2 Hornet drops in those 153 story mode attempts.
–RoA

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Got my first pearl yesterday! Was running the Preserve at level 67 on my psycho, pushing towards 72 for the first time, when the loot midgets dropped me a Storm!

Needless to say, I just about freaked out. Not a great weapon by any means; it has the blade attachment, for one, but still, seeing that cyan for the first time was a rush.

Left the game and went for a run to burn some energy, got back and loaded up, went through the midgets again - and they dropped me a sawbar.

:open_mouth: :smiley: :open_mouth: :smiley: :open_mouth:

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Not that’s it’s much data, but I’ve been really bad about keeping that stuff. :woozy_face:
I just went through all toons on the XB1 and the PS3, 31 characters, 5 no Lvl. Hornets. Looks pretty close to 1/10 to me.

Edit: I realize this works out to 1/6 but with such a small sample It’s expected to be skewed one way or the other. From my limited experiences in the game, a sample of few hundred would get it closer to 1/10.

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DONE.

Axton has cleared Normal Mode.

Dinged 31 on the BA Constructor.

Dinged 32 removing the Vault Key.

The Legendary that was dropped was… the Leech. Sticky Homing, shock.

AGAIN, THE GAME THINKS I’M PLAYING GAIGE.

Anyways, most of the side quests that do scale have scaled up to Level 30, and a few others to Level 31 (notably The Good, the Bad, and the Mordecai, which takes a lap around the Friendship Gulag anyway). I’ll clean up the Level 30 sidequests first, then do, TGTBATM to try to get a Veruc out of Mobley. I won’t have to worry about Dahl Snipers having a 37 Pitchfork, and the Hornet is either “Get it or don’t” but I won’t necessarily try to farm it. Or maybe I will.

SMG-wise… eh. :shrug:

I’m also going to send the 33 Bee (the Maliwan/Tediore one) from Velocidad to Axton, to keep the shield updated.

Basically it’ll be a while before Axton heads to TVHM.

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That’s some pretty hard data. Nice record keeping :+1:

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Actually I’ll go ahead and start (at least) the Captain Scarlett DLC. I don’t want to overlevel too hard but the objective is to clear that, get a Veruc, then start the Tiny Tina DLC and get a 35 (or 34) Bee.

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I’ve run 57 mules and over 2 dozen VH thru the game and have 5 level 0 (since they don’t show a level) and 1 level 2 Hornets. Not great on figuring the averages but it seem to me to still be about 1 in 10…

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This is something that has bugged me for a while: Level 0 gear does not exist. It’s level 1. The level requirement is absent because you start at level 1.
The difference between theoretical level 0 gear and level 1 gear is the usual 13% damage increase per level (or 10% in TPS), which equates to just 1 or 2 damage points at such a low level, but it’s there.

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After prestiging my Sal, decided to keep playing him for a while. He was never my go-to character to play…could never get the hang of which guns would pop up when going into gunzerker mode, or which guns would pop up when switching guns while gunzerking. With a lot of trial and error, I think i got it figured out. I think. With my new found optimism, i dropped down to OP0 to visit the dragons for the first time with Sal. Piece of cake with ROM, slag redundant lady fist, grog and harold, Evo shield. Upped it to OP4, still no problem/won first time. OP6 no problem/won first time. OP8 is a work in progress :slight_smile:

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The Hornet Question
Going by the numbers brought up by the folks in this forum we get the following results:
Toons run/Hornets found
25 / 2 by Jefe
153 / 7 by RavenOfArisia
31 / 5 by piratebones2
80 / 5 by Carlton_Slayer
12 / 1 by myself

301 / 20 all in all

Result is 0,066. Well below 10 % and far far below an alleged higher drop rate. Myth busted.

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I was surprised how much I was able to help. I was level 43, using a level 35 conference call and level 35 bee. And a level 38 legendary explosive assault rifle. At the very least I was surviving well on the left side, which is always nice as an anchor to keep the boss from recovering all health if you die. But it did seem like I was causing damage, even if slowly. Most of my badass rank goes into damage output so perhaps that covered the gap.

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Sounds reasonable. Are you also specced into Metal Storm? Certainly, having the attention divided like that helped a great deal.

:+1: :metal:

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This is almost exactly what happened to me last week. My Axton’s level was lower when I did it (because I traditionally try all story mode quests under level). But I got the same legendary! I played through the bunkers and badass DLC in normal and got the grog nozzle quest active. I then used that grenade while holding the grog nozzle to recover health. Eventually I replaced that grenade with a legendary electric magic shock grenade from the same dlc (chain lightning).

I’m now at level 46 and just beat the bunker in TVHM. I am probably going to keep this Axton in TVHM and just play through a bunch of quests and dlc in TVHM. Kind of what I did in normal mode (ended up being level 40 when I entered TVHM). Not what I usually do, but I’m switching things up to keep it fresh.

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Axton, middle branch - nuke turret and damage output as priority, and a bunch of points in the rightside branch to help with shield and health recovery and eventually double turrets.

I never add to max health because of how the healthgating works.

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WHY AM I STILL DOING THIS?

The biggest numbers is from RavenOFArisia and I eyeball it at 5%
I have to say I’m not totally surprised by these numbers. Guts feeling.
Anywhoo… What I did last night before going to bed is 25 Knuckledragger mission kills.
Got one hornet on the 16th run. So 1 / 25. Which keep us in the 1 / 15 range.

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