What I think of when I read "skins":

Link please? I want to see that.

Unfortunately it was a live stream and I didn’t have the foresight to take a screenshot. It was during one of MaddCowQQ’s streams, so you might be able to see it in his archived videos on Twitch.

Thanks. I’ll try to find it.

What I’m noticing is that every unlockable skin recolors the armor/clothes of the character, with exceptions to Benedict (his head feather), Miko, and robots like Marquis and Caldarius. With Thorn her hair and skin color remained the same, with her unlockable skins any way

Was it this stream?:

It was posted 15 hours ago. i don’t want to watch through 8 hours of video, so I’d like you to tell me whether I got the correct video of 3.


Not a lot of changes, but not just a reskin.

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Yeah! Like that, but a bunch of them for every character.

I already made a small list of skin ideas.
What do you think about Bride-Phoebe in a wedding dress? Miko as a different mushroom? Benedict as a seagull?

Those are just generic ideas. Haven’t bothered to mentally visualize freaky stuff like a Mecha-Montana yet.

Well, there seem to be a few different ways to alter a character’s appearance, in ascending order of magnitude:

  • Change one or more colours/tints (blue to pink)
  • Change one or more textures (metal to leather)
  • Change actual equipment/clothing models (change a sword to an axe)
  • Change heads
  • Completely change the entire character model

I do not mind games that take extreme liberties with these when there is no competitive multiplayer, but competitive multiplayer games need to be very careful about anything past a texture swap because you start to change the recognizable silhouette of a character. For example, you could make Montana pink or change his clothing to look like bear skins, but he would still look like Montana and you as an enemy or ally would know who he is and what he is about. But as soon as you start going much further that can change.

Hit box aside, it would be a bit unfair if Montana suddenly looked like a gun-toting bear (OK, he kind of looks like that now… :stuck_out_tongue:). You would not know how to deal with that until you knew that was Montana and had committed all of the possible variations of all Battleborn to memory. Granted, before a match you should have a good idea of who you are playing with and against, but it still can be jarring.

The more I think about it, though, the more I wonder how useful appearance modifications will be. This is a first-person game, and people usually buy such things for themselves, not for others - as much as we like to think they do, most other players do not care about your character, only their own. So, if we cannot really see the changes for most of gameplay (there are some third person parts, I am aware), how important are they?

League of Legends is a successful competitive game with the most active players. The skins there alter a lot (model, skill vfx, animations). The small number of skins with overbearing vfx-changes are banned in competitive play. There are like 500+ skins in the game. So I guess Battleborn players would be able to handle 3 skins and a handfull of recolors per character.

And as I already mentioned before, you just have to stay close to the original design for the hitbox. No matter how much anyone insists on the opposite, this is not a game where you lose because you weren’t able to snipe those 5mm of additional cloth with Benedict’s rockets. It’s fast paced, and not a precision-war. Even for Marquis. And I think the people at Gearbox are far smarter than the minimum required to understand, when it’s too much and when not.

To impress others of course :smile:

How dare you good sir. What about the swag and the bling?

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I felt left out so I spent 20 minutes on this. Meet NERV Kleese.

Get in the robot, Phoebe.

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Not really what I made this thread for, but it entertained me for a few seconds ^^

Ah, my bad, I’m not very good at actually reading things in detail when there’s art involved.

But to contribute to the thread meaningfully and to actually express my opinion, YES! I agree with you 100%. My favorite skins for any game are the ones that change the character’s model; either as a reference or a joke, or anything like that. I think Battleborn is just silly enough that, say, a Cowboy Orendi or a Pirate Parrot Benedict or a Sherlock Holmes Marquis would fit right in.

You have no idea how many concepts I had for Kleese skins. Dr. Eggman Kleese, Professor X Kleese, James Bond Villain Kleese… this is why we need special skins.

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Because of your post I may be hearing the Sonic 2 Boss theme every time I see Kleese now. This is not entirely a bad thing. :wink:

I find this discussion very strange, because I always thought “reskin” would just refer to re-texturing over a model and not altering the model at all. Is this an outdated definition? I would be happy to see remodelling of characters to a certain extent, but I come from Team Fortress 2 which is now the premier hat simulator on the internet.

I think it would be nice for the reskins to carry across to all characters from the same faction, so rather than have Rath and Ambra both given random skin colours, but instead having alternate faction skins. That way you could have a mono Eldrid team with a common team reskin if you so wanted. However saying that, I’d still like to see the odd unique character skin (especially if I can have that Dr. Eggman Kleese).

The age of simple recolors is over. There’s nothing to complain about a bunch of them, but I feel like a few slight model changes should be managable.

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I think it’s a good idea. As I said, I used to play TF2 a lot and acquiring a series of items that work well together could alter the them of the character. One of my friends often picks pirate themes for his characters so he would probably love to see this sort of thing. I can see a few minor tweaks to a character could put a whole different spin on the character of that particular Battleborn.

The Borderlands franchise in general show that Gearbox really loves popular culture and I am sure a few good natured references will appear in Battleborn too.

Hey, it’s me! AMERICA!!


Someone posted this in another thread, and I noticed that awesome looking ISIC skin in the back. Looking forward to seeing more like this one

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Someone probably already mentioned it, but there’s this awesome Toby skin that gives his mech flames like a motorcycle. I also heard about a Kleese skin that turns him into a zombie.

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I’ve seen that photo before. Are you also Marshall on the tyrant wiki? Sorry for off topic question. Just really really curious.