What should they do with Tiny Tina in BL3? Obligatory Spoiler Warning

Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel BL:TPS Discussion
#56

First, President Camacho AND explosions?! AWESOME! I’d pay full price and more, just to be able to do that.

I can see Tina’s back story developing, if the crew at GBX/2K want. Kid was orphaned by a big company’s greed. She was basically raised by former vault hunters (a drunk and a bandit king among them), in the midst of a bandit- and varkid-infested tundra. She became one of the most talented (and eccentric) demolitions experts on Pandora by age 13. She helped the Slab King fight the Sawtooth bandit clan, helped vault hunters rob TWO trains, and kinda-somewhat freed Butt Stallion from the Hyperion CEO. Her resume is already better than Gaige’s. One problem? Gaige. We already have a teenage girl on Team Vault Hunter. Still, she IS pretty much a living Flesh Crunch COM, with great dialogue.

But I’ll take whatever lets me wield the power of President Camacho in combat.

#57

As much as I like her character, I think Gearbox can’t just take her personality and put it in a older body. We already explored her personality, so her personality needs to develop. You can’t establish her character by saying, that the was awesome in the previous game. There must be something between BL2 and BL3.

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#58

Agreed. What I’m failing to state clearly, is that I think they’re already off to a good start, if they’d like to make her playable.

#59

Roland forcibly relocated Patrica Tannis to Sanctuary for her safety. That Patrica Tannis still lives in a non-standard living arrangement with two ceiling chairs would have been funny to, but by saying that someone relocated her to a safer place underlines how dangerous the situation.
If someone would relocated Tina to a safer place, it would also underline how dangerous the situation.

#60

I’d prefer that Tina stays an NPC. My issues is that yes, she deals with explosives but has Tina ever fired a gun and killed someone that way? And why would the Crimson Lance train her to use guns if she’s a demolitions expert already? Surely they’re not going to give her a gun and tell her to “Shoot this hyperion soldier we captured in the face” at such a young age.

VH’s use firearms, I don’t see Tina as a firearms user.

#61

If BL3 winds up way in the future … maybe Tina would be a grandmother and we could play her grandchild as a vault hunter.

:grinning:

#62

I agree, the Crimson Lance training a little traumatized child to shoot people would be a big odd. But I her character could undergo a development.

#63

Because Athena, Nisha, Wilhelm and Claptrap stayed as NPC’s and have never been playable.

#64

I never said that there is not playable characters that were NPC in the past, actually that is why I don’t like TPS as much compared to the other 2 BL games. An NPC should stay as an NPC is my opinion, I am not stating any fact related to the game.

#65

I think in BL2 Wilhelm, Claptrap and Nisha were already intended to be playable in the presequel. But I don’t know why NPCs shouldn’t become playable. It helps keeping the amount of characters low.

I think Tina can’t develop AND be a NPC in BL3.

#66

How about target dummy?

#67

I can see the stretch to make Tina a playable, but I agree that I don’t think they will.

I figure we’ll have either

1.) Old vault hunters that we already know, though possibly with modified skill trees, or
2.) Some completely NEW vault hunters, not previous NPCs, but four to six BRAND-SPANKING-NEW ones, and we’ll see old vault hunters in supporting roles, kinda like Mordecai in Tundra Express and Wildlife Exploitation Preserve.

It’s neat to consider the what-if of turning some of our favorite NPCs into the next game’s vault hunters, but I simply don’t think we WILL see it. There’s no reason they COULDN’T do that with a BL3. But GoetzIronHand has a solid point, that it would be better, if they’re making new playables, to start with blank slates, rather than have to work with the partial back-stories that we already have for our existing NPC cast.

I can definitely see Tina being PRESENT in BL3, and perhaps having some considerable supporting role. And I see that they COULD turn her into a VH, but they most likely WON’T. Fun as it would be to ride piggyback on Brick and toss grenades at dudes while he punches the s**t out of them, I’m not holding my breath on that one.

#68

Discussing NPC_->_Playable_character_good_or_bad is a bit disconnect from the subject.

Tina has great potential for character development, I mean she is 13 in BL2 and BL3 might takes place 5 years in the future

A playable Tina would most likely be different from the Tina we know.
Image Tina lived a somewhat sheltered life and while doing weapon training, then many of her Vault hunter friends disappear, what would also help reducing the amount of characters, then Tina says: “I got to save my friends or at least finish what they started” , leaves her sheltered life and becomes a VH.
Gearbox could make many of the Vault hunters disappeared anyway, but if this had no further impact on the story beside the fact that they are not part of the story (or at least till the end) it would look like:“deus ex machine, we had to many characters so we made some disappear”

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#69

Wouldn’t it be like the most awesome thing if Tina’s re-origin story (since she already has an origin story, but needs something to redefine her character a bit) doesn’t really tell whether she become saner or not between TPS and BL3?

At first everything thing would be fine, someone takes care of Tina and gives her weapons training (but not with the intention to sent her to the front lines) and then there is an incisive event that in a single instant shatters this idyll and kills at least one of her protectors, something simple and iconic like a MOTHER F-BEEP EXPLOSION. It could be implemented with a ECHO-log with an explosion near the end.
The pinch is that it’s allows Tina to “handle” (since people don’t really choose how they handle a trauma) her past in different ways. She can be dead on the inside, raging and eager for revenge or divorced from reality. And what personality she shows depends on the Skill trees the player chooses. (multiple Skill trees=schizophrenic)
There are other possible ways how her personality could develop, but I listed these three, because none of them is really better than the others.

#70

YES YES YES!!! I would love to finally play as Tiny Tina! (Number one choice is Mr. F****NG TORGUE!!!) But for a few reasons I see him never getting that chance but that being said I think that gives Tina an even bigger chance since she’s Torgues runner up.

Also Moxxi as a Vault Haunter would be frickin amazing. I can only imagine all the things they could do with her skill tree.

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#71

Moxxi is like 60 years old and she is not really a fighter. In TPS she says something like:“While you fight I will cheer you up from the coziness of this bar”

#72

I’m reminded of the not-so-tiny comic that someone much more talented than I created, it involved an 18 year old Tina blowing up a Hyperion base by strapping enough explosives to level a neighborhood to a Skag pup and propelling it over there with a rocket before it went boom.

I’d be all for a playable Tina in a future Borderlands game. I always loved her shenanigans ingame and given that both generations of Vault Hunters raise her, I think it’s a given that she’ll follow in their footsteps. Possible still trees for her could involve explosives, general gunplay since she makes her own weapons, and her boundless imagination as we’ve seen it in play during BL2 outside and inside DLC. Not a thorough design in the slightest but if she was going to be a Vault Hunter, that’s how I’d think her basic lay-out would go.

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#73

I have seen it, impressive work but I think it didn’t really capture her personality.

It think it would be boring if it were given that she becomes a VH. Doing something, because you were supposed to, is not awesome. I think she needs an origin story that involves her deciding to be a Vault hunter.

I am not sure, that she makes weapons, maybe she just repaints the weapons she gives to the player or the fact that she gives weapons to the player is not cannon

#74

What I can image as her action skill is throwing a D20 dice that works kinda like claptraps Vaulthunter.exe. Or a Grenade turret, that would make her the “soldier” of the team like Roland and Axton.
She could also “spawn” copies of herself on condition that the she has a split personality.

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#75

I dont think Tina would make a good vault hunter.

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